Stone Shaping a Wall with Arrow Slits?


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The spell description for Stone Shape says ‘fine detail’ is not possible. Is shaping a wall with arrow slits within the bounds of the spell?

Any opinions?


It would fit my definition of not being "fine detail". Other GMs may feel otherwise.


I think it's too cool to ban.


Sounds like a tiny sized "crude door" to me......

Lantern Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

A hole roughly 6 or so inches wide by a foot or two tall? That's not even close to "fine detail." It's a hole.

Now, sculpting the outside of the arrow slits to be the yawning mouths of leering gargoyles? Yeah, that's pretty detailed.

Heck, I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought there was a bit about allowing crude crenelations and such to be formed when shaping the effect. Arrow slits are right in line with that level of detail.


Arrow Slits are not fine detail. Making realistic sculpture is fine detail. Remember that this spell allows you to attempt to make moveable parts (with a failure rate). Anything architectural but not decorative should be well within the spell's limits.


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Yeah, you can totally close up arrow slits.

Here are some cool ways to weaponize the stone shape spell, or to at least make it really awesome outside of combat:

- Create spikes...big spikes...under enemies...impaling them. With 15 cubic feet I could create 45 right cones, each 5 feet long with a 3 inch radius at their base (if I did my math correctly). By reducing the radius, I can create well over a hundred spikes (albeit more fragile ones). At later levels, I could potentially impale small armies numbering in the hundreds.

- Prepare an action to create the above spikes (facing at an angle from the ground) when the enemy charges you and your friends so that they impale themselves.

- Touch a stone tower or similar structure and reshape a diagonal sliver out of it (moving it somewhere else in the tower) effectively cleaving the tower in half causing the top half to slide off the bottom half. I haven't done the math, but considering towers are rarely solid and I would only need to move a 1/2" x W' x D' or so, I should be able to pull this off even at low levels.

- Similar to the spike trick above, but the objective is to trap the victim(s) rather than to harm them. Simply have the cones spring up all around them thereby restricting their movement and making them helpless.

- Reshape a wall or ceiling into small spheres causing it to collapse on people standing nearby. Since I am not so much "turning the stone into spheres" as much as I am "reshaping/moving the stone from all the spaces BETWEEN the spheres," I can affect a surprisingly large amount of ceiling/wall this way.

- A combination of the above tricks: Instead of shaping a section of ceiling, shape them into cone spikes, then move a sliver of stone from their base causing them to fall on people below. I have no idea how much volume it would take to do that though...

- Cause a door in a stone frame to become blocked by stone cross bars in order to stop an enemy pursuit dead in its tracks.

- Seal a stone sarcophagi so that the horrible undead can't escape.

- Open a narrow passage (such as a door or series of murder holes) through a stone wall.

- Create a series of crude HOLLOW humanoid statues (I estimate about 1 per 5 cubic feet) to trick far off enemies or something.

- Create a mundane object such as thin slabs in the shape of a tent or shelter, or create a narrow bridge over a small chasm, or make a goblet or bowl for holding liquids or food.


RD, I so want to sit down at a table and game play PF with you. Just about every time you post I think that you would be a lot of fun. If for no other reason than me going "WTF! Why didn't I think of that?"


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I have nothing to add to the stone shaping spell question except to mention I am now informing my friend she can make an Earth-Bender! Mostly due to Ravingdork's awesome list of suggestions. (Deep Earth Bloodline sorcerer perhaps? or Earth Wizard?)


TheRonin wrote:
I have nothing to add to the stone shaping spell question except to mention I am now informing my friend she can make an Earth-Bender! Mostly due to Ravingdork's awesome list of suggestions. (Deep Earth Bloodline sorcerer perhaps? or Earth Wizard?)

Get tremor sense and blind sense/ or blindsight, at least blind fighting, and you now have Toph. Not sure about how to get metal involved in all this, but I'm sure someone can do it.

Also, RD always has great ideas. I will have to borrow some of these next time I get a chance to make a caster.

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