| Gauss |
Short answer: no.
Alternate races, spells, traits, etc can all add in bonuses.
examples:
Orc = up to 22 starting strength (+6str)
Bless = +1 morale
Rich Parents trait (with which you buy a masterwork weapon for a +1)
Right there is an extra +3, there are other ways to get more bonuses.
Other bonuses
Flanking = +2
Small size = +1 (but often comes with a penalty to strength)
- Gauss
| Brotato |
Rich Parents trait can net you a masterwork weapon at level 1, so that would bump it up to +8. Barbarian Rage for another +2 to +10 (granted Rage is only available in limited amount). Ranger Favored enemy would also bump it up from +8 to +10 for their Favored Enemy.
Edit: ninja'd by crappy dropped connection =(
Michael Sayre
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Is the highest bonus to hit at level 1 +7? +1 for fighter BAB, +5 for strength, +1 for weapon focus?
Pretty much. Unless you have the Rich Parents trait and start yourself off with a masterwork weapon. Or you play an orc with a +4 racial bonus to his Strength.
You could be using a ranged weapon like a bow, and then your fighter could add Point Blank Shot and Weapon Focus into the mix, switch out your Str for Dex and have a +8 to hit.
**EDIT** Super-ninja'd
| chaoseffect |
Another +1 for being small, or +1 for high ground while on a large mount vs a medium or smaller creature.
In regards to small, gnomes and halflings both get -2 to str, so it kind of balances out with no benefit at level 1. Not sure about non-core races though.
Speaking of non-core, Orc gives you +4 to str at the cost of -2 to all non-physical stats, so that could give you up to 22 str.
| Gauss |
Nicos: There is no way for that build to occur that I am aware of. No race has both a +2str and a +2int. There is one option that will allow that (Human) but that sacrifices the human bonus feat.
Arcane Accuracy cannot be taken until level 3 unless you burn a feat. Since the human just burned his bonus feat on the extra +2 ability score that would preclude spending a feat on Weapon Focus. Note: this also presumes that you can take the feat Extra Arcana before you get access to Magus Arcana. Something I do not think you can do.
Also: you cannot use both Arcane Accuracy and Arcane Pool (enhancement) simultaneously. Thus even with your calculations you are still only at +11.
- Gauss
| Nicos |
Gauss wrote:Note: this also presumes that you can take the feat Extra Arcana before you get access to Arcana. Something I do not think you can do.The prereq for the feat says you need have an Arcana, so you're correct in thinking that he couldn't.
True.
Today is not my day in the forum :(
| Gauss |
The debate revolves around the wording 'class feature'. It does not specifically call out whether or not you must have the class feature now or just that the feature is part of your class. It is a thin argument imo that you can have it part of your class but not yet and have that qualify. Still, such discussions have occured.
- Gauss
| Ashiel |
Is the highest bonus to hit at level 1 +7? +1 for fighter BAB, +5 for strength, +1 for weapon focus?
+0 BAB, +6 strength, +2 aid another, +1 morale, +1 competence bonus, +2 flanking, +1 enhancement, +20 insight = +32 at 1st level, as an orc sorcerer. EDIT: If we count consumables as well, then we could get it a bit higher still, because we could use scrolls of greater magic weapon. EDIT 2: Actually aid-another stacks with itself, so we could get 3 party members plus your familiar to use aid-another, bringing your to-hit up to +38. Larger parties could get you up to the low 40s.
| Ashiel |
Jack Spellsword wrote:Is the highest bonus to hit at level 1 +7? +1 for fighter BAB, +5 for strength, +1 for weapon focus?+0 BAB, +6 strength, +2 aid another, +1 morale, +1 competence bonus, +2 flanking, +1 enhancement, +20 insight = +32 at 1st level, as an orc sorcerer. EDIT: If we count consumables as well, then we could get it a bit higher still, because we could use scrolls of greater magic weapon. EDIT 2: Actually aid-another stacks with itself, so we could get 3 party members plus your familiar to use aid-another, bringing your to-hit up to +38. Larger parties could get you up to the low 40s.
Using consumables that your party could purchase and cast before 2nd level, we could get a +5 enhancement from greater magic weapon, and +4 morale from greater heroism. That would get us to +45.