Stacking levels for sneak attack damage


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Grand Lodge

I have a Halfling that is fighter1/rogue 4 and his current sneak attack dice is 2d6. He has all the prerequisites for Halfling Opportunist. The levels stack for sneak attack damage, but it says Halfling Opportunist gains this additional dice at 2nd level, not 1st.

After reading the description of Vivisectionist, it would seem the first level of Halfling Opportunist could stack with rogue 4 to bring the net S. A. damage to 3d6, just like a 5th level rogue. It definitely would stack at 6th but that is 2 levels without SA advancement.

Suggestions? If I were to take a level of Vivisectionist it would stack it definitely work.


I'm not sure what your question is. But the halfling opportunist doesn't give you any increase to sneak attack until your 2nd lv in the class.

Sczarni

OK, I don't see what Opportunist has to do with Vivisectionist. Opportunist is an EX ability a rogue has. Vivisectionist is a class prototype for an Alchemist class. So if you take a lvl 1 alchemist/Vivi prototype, you will get a "ghost" 5th level for sneak attack damage. You have to take the class with the prototype on it though.

...and I don't see how a 5th level character has all the prereques for a 10th level feat/ability (advanced Talent = Opportunist).

Grand Lodge

maouse wrote:

OK, I don't see what Opportunist has to do with Vivisectionist. Opportunist is an EX ability a rogue has. Vivisectionist is a class prototype for an Alchemist class. So if you take a lvl 1 alchemist/Vivi prototype, you will get a "ghost" 5th level for sneak attack damage. You have to take the class with the prototype on it though.

...and I don't see how a 5th level character has all the prereques for a 10th level feat/ability (advanced Talent = Opportunist).

Halfling Opportunist is a Prestige Class, which you have to get 5 Ranks in some items before taking a level of Halfling Opportunist. I think this is the root of the disconnect. The base class Alchemist Vivisectionist gains Sneak Attack just like the base class Rogue. This is where they don't let them begin to stack. Any of the Prestige classes gain this whenever they gain it.


It's the difference between "levels stack to determine sneak attack" and "these sneak attack dice stack". In the former, you add your levels together, then compare to the rogue chart. That means that multi-classing between them still gives you a die every other level. In the latter, you just get more dice, and it becomes [Weapon]+2d6+1d6, which is effectively the same as [Weapon]+3d6.

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