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Actually there were about 10 bids on it. All the other items combined had maybe 15.
Kyle, I had thought I remembered more bids on it, but didn't Mike say there were 11 between us and Paizocon UK? If both of these statements were correct, whoever got it at UK with almost no contest is a lucky lucky person!
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Or Mike was just plain wrong. That's happened before.
I think the items suffered from a lack of pre-Con advertising.
That would have been a good idea. I would have probably saved up about 18,000 gold if I had known about it ahead of time (by not upgrading my stat item or weapon). I'm certainly not going to spend anything around Gencon now that I know, so I'm sure you and Tim's super-deadly special will punish me for that!
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Or Mike was just plain wrong. That's happened before.
I think the items suffered from a lack of pre-Con advertising.
So they were the John Carter of the event? ;-)
@Drogon
There's *always* going to be someone wanting something more. That's life. Mike (even when I disagree with him) exercises the option too few home GMs use, saying 'no' politely.
Convincing him to change his mind isn't going to be shouting "I wanna I wanna I wanna!" It is the civil conversations and arguments that (most) people engage in.
If I'm right* then I win, and people benefit. There will also be people griping that it's not fair that their boon just became 'worthless' because Someone can now get it another way.**
But civil disagreement and discourse is the only way to win. Most of us are adults. So we need to act like it.***
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And whatever that something is, we'll have a new series of posts complaining about IT not being available to the stay-at-home crowd.I think a lot of folks are missing Mike's point.
In order to give out race booms via some method other than con attendance, we need something else that can be given out instead of the race boons to drive con attendance.
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This is just like politics you'll never make everyone happy.
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And whatever that something is, we'll have a new series of posts complaining about IT not being available to the stay-at-home crowd.I think a lot of folks are missing Mike's point.
In order to give out race booms via some method other than con attendance, we need something else that can be given out instead of the race boons to drive con attendance.
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This is just like politics you'll never make everyone happy.
Indeed.
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In the interests of creating a cult of adoration around Unique Pathfinder Artifacts, is there any chance we could have these unique items stats listed somewhere for us to look at and coo over?
(Personally I spend my gold on the big necessary magic items to keep my characters alive. I spend my pp on being ready for death and gaining the highest rank in a faction, so I doubt I could do well in such an auction.)
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(Personally I spend my gold on the big necessary magic items to keep my characters alive. I spend my pp on being ready for death and gaining the highest rank in a faction, so I doubt I could do well in such an auction.)
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And whatever that something is, we'll have a new series of posts complaining about IT not being available to the stay-at-home crowd.I think a lot of folks are missing Mike's point.
In order to give out race booms via some method other than con attendance, we need something else that can be given out instead of the race boons to drive con attendance.
Honestly, I think it's unfair to lump all the complaints into the 'stay at home crowd'.
Some things in the RPG line don't belong in Golarion. (Half drow being the most recent example.) If someone wants to start a thread complaining "Why can't I play a Drow/Half Drow in PFS?" I'll be the first to say "Because they're not playable in the sense of the world."
Likewise, have we had Catfolk in any Golarion book? Or Ratkin for that matter?
(And I like half drow)
Likewise, I don't argue cycling through the boons as a "It's not fair!" argument. I honestly feel it's better for the game and the line to 'cycle out' boons like the races, or at least open them to less random methods (like GM stars). Reward people for going to conventions/hosting events with either things not in the books (like the Rune Boons I suggested elsewhere, or the items mentioned above) or things in the books early. (like getting access to the tieflings/aasimar/dhampir/etc. a year or two early.)
It's my understanding, for example, that there were fetchling boons at Paizocon. Great. Now if they're added to the 'boon pool' for a year (or two!) I don't mind, heck I encourage it. I think it is better for the line that they eventually 'filter out' to the masses via some other method. Mike disagrees. That's fine.* As long as we can have civil discussion, no one is harmed.
I can write an aasimar character, using the stuff in the ARG as inspiration (Tiyet's appearance, for example, predates the metal skin feats, but that describes what I was going for). I can play an aasimar if I can form a non-PSF group. If I got access to the Aasimar, it allows me to bring other character concepts to the table, in PFS, in new ways. But that's me. If Rey dies in an adventure, and I don't have the prestige/gold to bring him back. I'm going to sigh and pull out a new character.
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GM boons are great but in the last 4 conventions I have gone to, I have gotten the same GM boon. (Kublacon, Origins, Paizocon, Connecticon). In the last 3 conventions I gave the GM Boons to players who wanted the races on the boon sheet.
Fetchling was only available to GM/players who were in the tier 12 table. I hope future boons like this are also given in a similar fashion. I dont want an table full of Goblins/Catfolk/Vanarans running around. (but a table full of vanarans may be funny)
Hopefully there will be some rewards atttached to the GM star system or a boon sheet for completing every scenario in a season.
I guess we'll have to wait for Season 4.
What alternative ideas do you have that I can provide for convention support that will be as well received as a convention support prize as race boons are and that:
1) does not break the WBL curve
2) is not overpowered
3) would convince someone to come to a con when they otherwise would not attend?
Well, how about this.
Introduce some sort of reward points or coupons. Similar to Prestige, but for player participation. You'd earn them for playing events at conventions, and can turn them in for stuff like race boons.
As an example, a local convention gave out point coupons for every event a player attended. They could redeem them for swag of the appropriate point cost later.
This would encourage convention play, and give players a concrete goal they can shoot for instead of hoping for randomly distributed awards.
Perhaps conventions could award points for bringing in new attendees. I dunno.
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What alternative ideas do you have that I can provide for convention support that will be as well received as a convention support prize as race boons are and that:
1) does not break the WBL curve
2) is not overpowered
3) would convince someone to come to a con when they otherwise would not attend?Well, how about this.
Introduce some sort of reward points or coupons. Similar to Prestige, but for player participation. You'd earn them for playing events at conventions, and can turn them in for stuff like race boons.
As an example, a local convention gave out point coupons for every event a player attended. They could redeem them for swag of the appropriate point cost later.
This would encourage convention play, and give players a concrete goal they can shoot for instead of hoping for randomly distributed awards.
Perhaps conventions could award points for bringing in new attendees. I dunno.
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This sounds like an alternate way to the token system already in place. Right now the 1 or 2 tokens grant you a chance to roll a die and you get whatever you roll. I could see a limited ' X amount of tokens will get you this X boon' But I would limit it. Say if we had 5 boons being given out at a con then just one of those boons would be available for trade in.
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If the idea of boons is to convince people to attend conventions, then a single 5% chance and only then if you were playing in a certain slot, is not really going convince me to spend several hundred pounds on a gaming weekend. Though the Gencon model for PFS boons strikes me as a good way forward.
As far as the auctions go, I would have loved to bid on some of the lots at PaizoCon UK but my character at the convocation couldn't really afford to join in. It was rather frustrating as I knew that there were crazy bargains to be had!
That being said the auction was not a big draw for attending.
The fact remains that all other things being equal if you live in certain parts of the world going to cons is more doable than if you live in other parts. Add in that all things won't actually be equal as far as being able to go to cons. Meaning access to things like races being restricted to people who can get to multiple cons is going to result in a divisive have and have not culture. Mind you if all the boons do is give early access to races then it's not such a big deal but generally "a them and us" culture isn't really ideal.
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I dont want an table full of Goblins/Catfolk/Vanarans running around. (but a table full of vanarans may be funny)
Because everything's better with monkeys, yes?
Actually though that's part of the issue. You don't want a table full of goblins/catfolk/vanarans. I might not want a table full of tengu. There might be a GM out there who doesn't want a table of gunslinger types because they feel it turns the scenario into Spaghetti Pathfinder. I hate the ninja class with a passion, etc etc.
The point I'm trying to make is that the game world allows for concepts, out and out restricting them to some people is going to stagnate (see the example of someone going to 3 cons and getting the same boons) and create an economy of demand (see boon trading and e-bay threads). If I'm GMing a public game (which is all I'm doing right now) I'm going to sit that table of tengu, that gaggle of gunslingers, that alliance of aasimars and run the game. I just think that there should be another way to get 'boon races' than the boons.
But I've gone on too long about this. We just need to shut up and see what 4.2 brings.
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Rewarding someone because they put more time in is not fair at all. Some people have limited schedules that allow them to only play occasionally and just like the "you have to go to a con to get a boon" that is not fair either. MMO's basically do this and this is one of the main things I hate about them. You can be a mindless dribble but if you play enough you eventually get phat lootz, it is no longer about skill or playing properly and more about how much time you spend playing.
It is the fairest method of all.
Even somebody who plays only 1 game a month will eventually qualify. How long it takes is just a matter of effort expended (and actually surving to level 12).
It's not a race: the finish line would not be moving. It may take you six months or three years, but eventually you will cross the line. Would conventions be fasters and easier? Of course, but no one is suggesting getting rid of race boons at conventions.
And one question: are race boons at conventions only given out to the most skilled players? I was under the impression they were provided for attendance regardless of player skill level.
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It is the fairest method of all.
No, the fairest method of all would be nobody gets to play a 'boon race'. Do you really want to go there?
And one question: are race boons at conventions only given out to the most skilled players? I was under the impression they were provided for attendance regardless of player skill level.
Not everyone who goes to a con gets a boon. When boons are available, people have the oportunity to win a boon, it isn't guarenteed they'll get one, and if you get a boon, it's not guarenteed to be a race boon, or even the race you want for that matter.
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GM boons are great but in the last 4 conventions I have gone to, I have gotten the same GM boon. (Kublacon, Origins, Paizocon, Connecticon). In the last 3 conventions I gave the GM Boons to players who wanted the races on the boon sheet.
Note that those four conventions have been in San Francisco, Columbus, Ohio, Seattle, and Hartford. Most people aren't going to be able to go across country to different conventions.
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Note that those four conventions have been in San Francisco, Columbus, Ohio, Seattle, and Hartford. Most people aren't going to be able to go across country to different conventions.GM boons are great but in the last 4 conventions I have gone to, I have gotten the same GM boon. (Kublacon, Origins, Paizocon, Connecticon). In the last 3 conventions I gave the GM Boons to players who wanted the races on the boon sheet.
Geez..up already! Its like 7am in your neck of the woods. I get it though hopefully dragoncon will have something different. Not that i've used a race boon yet, but they're fun to collect!
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What alternative ideas do you have that I canIntroduce some sort of reward points or coupons. Similar to Prestige, but for player participation. You'd earn them for playing events at conventions, and can turn them in for stuff like race boons.
As an example, a local convention gave out point coupons for every event a player attended. They could redeem them for swag of the appropriate point cost later.
This would encourage convention play, and give players a concrete goal they can shoot for instead of hoping for randomly distributed awards.
Perhaps conventions could award points for bringing in new attendees. I dunno.
The onloy significant difference from what you are suggesting and what is currently done, at Gencon anyway, is that you are suggesting each boon be worth a certain number of tickets (or tokens, etc), opposed to the tickets beign turned in for a roll of a die.
No, the fairest method of all would be nobody gets to play a 'boon race'. Do you really want to go there?
Actually, maybe the opposite?
What if everyone upon registering for the PFS got the option to add to their downloads a single race boon that is stamped like other Paizo downloads so it could not be given away. It could also be worded so that people knew it was a "Welcome to the Society" boon so if it wasn't tagged to that person it wouldn't be valid.
Maybe give them a choice from 4 or 5 different races, I know people will complain that they one they wanted weren't on the list, but such is life (which has been repeatedly noted already...). Maybe from the first few races that were initially offered to keep the newer ones fresh and still a bonus for con attendees.
I know people might be quick to say "then all we will see are these new races at every table", but i don;t think that is the case. I have 3 or so race boons from both cons and the Beginner Box Bash, and I haven't used one yet. While I certainly will use one at some point, I also like the existing races that I grew up playing this game with.
Just a thought...
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What if everyone upon registering for the PFS got the option to add to their downloads a single race boon that is stamped like other Paizo downloads so it could not be given away.
Great for new players. Not so great for existing players.
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No, the fairest method of all would be nobody gets to play a 'boon race'. Do you really want to go there?
Actually, maybe the opposite?
What if everyone upon registering for the PFS got the option to add to their downloads a single race boon that is stamped like other Paizo downloads so it could not be given away. It could also be worded so that people knew it was a "Welcome to the Society" boon so if it wasn't tagged to that person it wouldn't be valid.
That had been discussed, I beleive (not speaking for Mike, relying on memory) that Mike's concern was it would require additional effort on the part of the web monkeys.
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1) I agree with Drogon that nobody will satisfied with everything and the argument is getting old.
2)If we're going to do anything, I suggest one boon per GM star (thus encouraging others to GM, a problem in some areas) and/or one boon per 100 games played, insuring that such boon are obtainable, rare, and open to everyone.
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1) I agree with Drogon that nobody will satisfied with everything and the argument is getting old.
2)If we're going to do anything, I suggest one boon per GM star (thus encouraging others to GM, a problem in some areas) and/or one boon per 100 games played, insuring that such boon are obtainable, rare, and open to everyone.
yes on 1) no on 2)
I'll be blunt. Playing doesn't take much effort, just show up. GMing takes effort and investment (even if you just run free RPG day scenarios and First Steps, you're *still* taking time to set everything up and likely buying maps, printing stuff, etc etc.
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1) I agree with Drogon that nobody will satisfied with everything and the argument is getting old.
2)If we're going to do anything, I suggest one boon per GM star (thus encouraging others to GM, a problem in some areas) and/or one boon per 100 games played, insuring that such boon are obtainable, rare, and open to everyone.
1) I agree.
2) I like your 100 games idea, but I'd like to point out that there are currently 106 PFS legal scenarios a person can play through, between seasons 0-3.
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To echo the opinion of many, I like the 1 boon per GM star idea. Where I play its a pain to get other people to step up and GM and I am frequently telling the newbies how their Tengu, Aasimar, or Tiefling character just arent legal to PFS. I think this might dangle a carrot to the new players interested in races while not having to beat them over the head with the company line about how they should set up a 15 table con and then they too might get a racial boon.
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For those who are jumping on the bandwagon of saying that this type of thing should be for GM stars:
Mike has already discussed giving GMs benefits for running games. That's why they now get a Chronicle for running it in the first place, because Paizo/PFS wants to reward them. In the next season, they're likely to start getting new favors for doing this, on top of what they already get.
But, it's the policy of Paizo that the PFS main goal is to encourage Organized play in order to promote their line. So, they draw people to conventions. They're not going to stop doing this. Many of us think that it's a good idea, and follow Paizo's lead. BUT, it's already been said many times on the boards that Paizo/PFS is not going to direct *how* the PFS members play. They're not going to tell them when, where, or how to play. (Other than followig PFS rules.) They can play however they like ... and that includes the choice of whether they want to be the DM or a Player.
My opinion is that Paizo is not likely to start doing so now. Dictating that the only way to get a particular benefit is to take a particular role in the game is not really a precedent that I think that Paizo would want to make. If nothing else, it would open the door for things to follow that wouldn't be in the best interests of the campaign.
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1) I agree with Drogon that nobody will satisfied with everything and the argument is getting old.
2)If we're going to do anything, I suggest one boon per GM star (thus encouraging others to GM, a problem in some areas) and/or one boon per 100 games played, insuring that such boon are obtainable, rare, and open to everyone.
yes on 1) no on 2)
I'll be blunt. Playing doesn't take much effort, just show up. GMing takes effort and investment (even if you just run free RPG day scenarios and First Steps, you're *still* taking time to set everything up and likely buying maps, printing stuff, etc etc.
Yes, I intentionally suggested a boon per star because they are making maps and doing all the work is hard work. However, I assume there is/maybe a good reason why someone could not GM (medical condition etc) and there is a point where you become a 'vet' in that you contribute to the local PFS community in other, still tangible ways.
2) I like your 100 games idea, but I'd like to point out that there are currently 106 PFS legal scenarios a person can play through, between seasons 0-3.
Good point. How does 75 sound?
But, it's the policy of Paizo that the PFS main goal is to encourage Organized play in order to promote their line. So, they draw people to conventions. They're not going to stop doing this. Many of us think that it's a good idea, and follow Paizo's lead.
Where is the logic here suggesting that promoting their line=drawing people to conventions? I go to 2 convention per year and do a lot of non-pfs stuff there as well. However, I play/GM 4-6 times a month at local game stores. Therefore, for me, they do a perfectly fine job of promoting the line through their local game stores.
There is no logic to suggest going to conventions does a better job of promoting the Pathfinder line than store play does (though I think location does have a lot to do with the availiblity of local games).
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There is no logic to suggest going to conventions does a better job of promoting the Pathfinder line than store play does (though I think location does have a lot to do with the availiblity of local games).
I have wondered on this as well. I believe the goal actually is to get CON attendees INTO the PFS room, But it is always phrased as getting people to a con.
I do not have a regular group here, so a con is the only way I can get a lot of gaming in. However I am just as interested in the panels, seminars, demos, non-d20 games and even the retailers room to spend the whole time playing the same system/game/character. Even at PaizoCon there is so much good stuff going on that PFS seems a waste of vacation time. I can play PFS here (mostly) but gaming with Eric Mona, Green Blood on Black Rock, RPGSS panels, Secrets of Golarian... uh not at my local venue. My first GenCon (because some day I will be rich...) will be spent at things like True Dungeon, film contest, Iron GM (still around?) etc.. For the several hundred (thousand?) dollars I would have to shell out I want something new.
For non-PFS players that something new SHOULD include Paizo. Having a huge room, with tons of tables and billllions of players having fun is going to draw someone in, so there is a bit of logic there. Again I think the argument is(should be?) getting NEW customers from the already present CON gamers.
Then again, what do I know?
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I don't know how it works for other groups, but in Melbourne the GM is expected to have purchased and downloaded the module beforehand to prepare it. That means to reach 10 sessions GM'ed the GM has to have spent around $40 on PFS (assuming all different scenarios), and taken the time out to prepare those sessions.
I also know my Venture Captain and Lieutenant are always on the lookout for rules-savvy gamers to GM and lighten the load for them to take a week off to play.
I think it's more than fair that earning a star allows a GM to select one racial boon of their choice.
If you think this system would increase false reporting, then the signoff for the racial boon would need to come from a VC or VL. I know in the past people have complained that they don't have a VC near them but there's been a big increase in VC's in the past year. And as mentioned above, there's always someone who isn't happy.
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Ok, so folks know I am in charge of OP events (mostly PFS of late) for 2-3 cons in SE Virginia (Including one next weekend in Williamsburg, VA if you're in the area ;) ). And since the issue I've noticed has become how to draw players to cons. This has been a serious issue for me since the current generation of OP came to be (PFS, LFR, etc.). In general I've been of the opinion that Cons as a whole, particularly the small and mid-size regional events I work, have become less of a point of emphasis in the current scheme. My biggest complaint with both LFR and PFS in their nascent periods was the complete lack of any special things for conventions. No special mods, no boons, nothing that really encouraged anyone to go to conventions. Well, at least in comparison to the amazing interactives and regional modules that drove me to travel to cons all over the east coast for LG events. Add to that the utter lack of support or incentives for event organizers that PFS offered and from 09-11 my events attendance plunged (note, I was offering both PFS and LFR events those years). Even the addition of Specials in LFR didn't seem to do much for attendance. The way things were going, I actually got so burned out trying to run these events with no real help and getting very little DM assistance nor player attendance, I actually took a year off from one of my favorite cons.
Now with my first event of the calender year this year I actually started getting help again. I finally got some support from my local VC (whom I now have a pretty good working relationship with :) ) and the boons and attendance shot back up. Not to the point it was at the last year of LG at that event, but the best it had been in the current gen. While I was a bit peeved that some of my responsibilities had gotten usurped (which isn't an issue anymore :) ) I was grateful and reenergized. However I was still quite surprised that there was no module that was convention exclusive and even more disturbing that event organizers still don't get squat on their own. I wasn't even aware of the existence of the boons and had no idea I could get them. It almost seems to me that there's very little organizers could do without the direct involvement of a VC. Not that I have a problem working with my local VC (I love ya Paul, I really do :) ) but I can imagine some that might not. So yeah, might want to rethink that whole process so that organizers that don't have ready access to VCs and/or have VCs that aren't as awesome as mine can do their own thing. And I won't go on and on about organizer incentives as I've been told that's a horse that's been beaten dead, risen as a zombie, and beaten back to death (though Mr. Brock. I'd love to have a conversation off boards on that one if you want to pick my brain more, there's plenty in there :) ).
Anywho, back to the issue. While as a player I'd love the idea of making the boons more available to the general public (perhaps as a reward for playing such as the way the LFR cards were) or at the very least to regular GMs, as a con organizer I have to say that right now they're the only thing we got. And before someone shoots back about the special interactives, most of my events only offer 3 tables (though MarsCon 13 we're looking at going back to 5) they don't really help and, well they're not *con* exclusive. As for what could be done as con draws instead of/in addition to the boons here are some thoughts:
*Convention exclusive modules, and at least 2 a year since some areas (like mine) have multiple yearly conventions
*Interactives that can be run on fewer tables (like 3). These would be great for smaller regional cons and/or mid sized cons that want to have alternatives for those who don't like interactives. It would also be nice if local organizers/VCs could come up with their own like back in the LG days though I'm not sure that's in the cards :).
*Making EXs also accessible to organizers of events of 10 or more sessions. At the very least that would give us more GM flexibility at cons if nothing else.
Again, I'd love to discuss these thoughts with anyone and everyone that wants to discuss them. And one more time, I'd like to express my thanks and appreciation of my local VC who's been nothing but a help since we got to know each other better :).
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I'm glad you mentioned the above, Mr. Meunier. I've actually got four conventions on my white board right now with no VC or VL involved. The con coordinator for RPG from each con contacted me for support and all four now have race boons. A VC or VL isn't necessary to receive boons or product prize support.
Also, you mention that I should make EXs available to con coordinators. However, that is the only real reward I have to offer 4 and 5 star GMs at the moment. If I also offer it to con coordinators, what do I replace the EX with for those GMs who have put the most time into helping PFS. And before anyone says, give the, a race boon at every star level, we don't have a method to facilitate that a this time. There is no way to automate it currently.
Feel free to email me offline of you wish to discuss further.
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To me, I think it just hurts the sales on the Advanced Race Guide....
Do you think if sales were hurting that bad, I wouldn't open it up? PFS is about more than just sales and there are other considerations.
See, the thing is, since I offered to allow all Paizo sources in my campaign (in fact, making it as part of character creation), I have enticed 5 people who have never had an interest in the ARG to severely consider opening their wallet to have it on hand....
And I've got 3 other groups for every 1 you can point to in different parts of the world that opening race boons is not going to be the deciding factor whether they open their wallets to buy a $40 book. People aren't going to buy the book because they have a race boon that lets them use one of 20 races out of the hardcover. They are going to buy the book if they can get more use than just one race from one boon.
Going back to conventions, really, Mike, I think if you want to make conventions enticing, simply continue offering the "Interactive/Multi-Table" and "Special" Modules. Those attract a huge amount of attention to PFS Conventions, since they generally can only be ran at conventions (VC and LVCs only really show up to cons). Heck, last year, we had the issue of not having enough GMs for the Midnight Mauler, and we had to turn away a lot of players that wanted to play it. Some even came for just this module..
If we had the development staff to be able to do this, don't you think I would have already set this in motion? We simply don't have the resources to create more than what we are already doing. We are stretched thin as it is.
Also, I'm not holding them with an iron fist. I've sent out convention boons to more than 10, one day game days this year at local game stores that had nothing to do with a convention. Anyone who sets up a game day, anywhere in the world, with a minimum of 15 sessions, can get access to PFS special boons.
For the hundredth time, what I'm not going to do is open the Advanced Race Guide wide open and let everyone play anything they want. It isn't going to happen. It had a negative influence on previous organized play campaigns and we are not going down that road.
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I'll probably take you up on that when I'm more awake and can put my thoughts together more coherently =).
And I'm glad to know that it's possible to get support without a VO involved. That was a beef of mine in LFR which I'm glad to know isn't being repeated here.
And Mike, wasn't trying to be sarcastic or confrontational in tone or anything. Overall I think y'all are doing a great job up there.
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For the hundredth time, what I'm not going to do is open the Advanced Race Guide wide open and let everyone play anything they want. It isn't going to happen. It had a negative influence on previous organized play campaigns and we are not going down that road.
Amen to that. I still have nightmares of GMing LFR tables after the floodgates opened and people could start playing whatever they wanted. I shouldn't have to spend 15-20 minutes at the beginning of every slot to figure out what this race is, what it looks like, and what it does. Doling out limited numbers of race boons after careful examination as to how that race would affect play is far preferable to opening the books to pretty much anything. Control is a good thing, trust me =).
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How about those people who live remotely?
I live in Perth, Western Australia - the most isolated capital city in the world. If we were to have a "Con" in Australia, it would be in Sydney most likely - 4,000kms away (no joke!), or Melbourne (even further).
We have a group of people here who play and just this Saturday we had two tables going with six players each. So, we are not a few isolated people, I think there are probably 30 or more people who have played Pathfinder in Perth. I couldn't give you exact numbers, but those numbers are growing.
There is NO WAY. I can afford to travel to the other side of my country (travel here is monstrously expensive compared to the US, it would cost me well over $1000 for travel, accommodation, expenses for a weekend) to attend a Con.
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I'm well aware of the situation in Perth. I usually chat with your VC, Callum Prior, on a monthly basis. If you have 30 or more players, and that number is growing, it shouldn't be too difficult to put together a three day weekend with 15 sessions then, should it? After all, 30 players makes 5-6 tables. If you have 3 slots, say two on Saturday and one on Sunday, that meets the minimum of 15 sessions. Chat with your VC and set up a weekend on Golarion event.
By the way, I have great news for you. You dont have to travel to the other side of your country. There have been four cons in Perth I have sent support for this year. Here you go:
GenghisCon (sci-fi / fantasy gaming)
St George's College, Perth
January 13-15, 2012
http://www.genghiscon.org/ (currently down)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/7159020094/
WAICON (anime)
Perth Convention Centre
January 28-29, 2012
http://www.wai-con.org/
SwanCon (speculative fiction)
Perth, location TBA
April 5-12, 2012
https://2012.swancon.com.au/
SupaNova (pop culture)
Claremont Showgrounds, Perth
June 24-26, 2012
http://www.supanova.com.au