Tactician Fighter Clarification

[Agrippa]

Hey All,

I don't know if this has already been addressed (my apologies if it has), but I couldn't find a definitive answer on the messageboards or in the SRD. I have a two-part question regarding the Tactican Archtype for the Fighter.

First, UC states that the Tactician ability gained at 5th level replaces Weapon Training 1, and the character can use this ability an additional time per day every 5 levels after 5th. No mention is made at all of the remaining Weapon Training levels or Weapon Mastery. Indeed, in the SRD's Fighter Archtype chart only Weapon Training 1 has an X in its respective box; all the others are untouched.

So my questions are: Does the Tactician get Weapon Training again at 9th level, or are the additional daily uses of the Tactician ability meant to replace them too? If he does get Weapon Training again, does he start at Weapon Training 2 (+1 to one weapon group, +2 to another weapon group) and carry on as per normal?

Any insight to help clarify this for me would be appreciated.

[Cheapy]

He gets weapon training 1 at 9th level.

The reason why is this paragraph:

Quote:

If an archetype replaces a class feature that is part of a series of improvements or additions to a base ability (such as a fighter's weapon training or a ranger's favored enemy), the next time the character would gain that ability, it counts as the lower-level ability that was replaced by the archetype. In effect, all abilities in that series are delayed until the next time the class improves that ability. For example, if an archetype replaces a rogue's +2d6 sneak attack bonus at 3rd level, when she reaches 5th level and gains a sneak attack bonus, her sneak attack doesn't jump from +1d6 to +3d6—it improves to +2d6, just as if she had finally gained the increase at 3rd level. This adjustment continues for every level at which her sneak attack would improve, until at 19th level she has +9d6 instead of the +10d6 of a standard rogue.

This can be found under the "alternate class features" heading :)

[Agrippa]

Cheapy wrote:

He gets weapon training 1 at 9th level.

Thanks for clarifying that for me, Cheapy. And thanks for pointing that paragraph out for me too (guess I missed that - my bad). It's nice to know that the Tactician just defers to the next opportunity and doesn't lose out altogether on Weapon Training.

Cheers

[Aeshuura]

Unless he has studied his Agrippa, as I have! ;p