Human Racial Heritage Feat and Advanced Race Guide


Rules Questions


Hi, first post...

So, has anybody found anything interesting/problematic through a Human(Or Half-Elf or Half-Orc) taking this feat and then taking feats as a race from ARG?

I am personally amused by Racial Heritage(Grippli)>Agile Tongue, and Racial Heritage(Kitsune)>Magical Tail.

Two feats-- Racial Heritage(Changeling) and Mother's Gift(Uncanny Resistance) gives any human-type spell resistance of 6 plus character level, but that's a steep investment, IMO.

Tiefling gives you a +2 natural AC-- or resist 5 acid, cold,electricity, or fire. Tengu could grow wings, then assume a Large raven form. Sylph gives you flight and not needing to breathe, both at higher levels.

Does the "Draconic" chain of Kobold feats not work if you don't have scales?

If nothing else, I think some of these options are good flavor for unusual character concepts.

Grand Lodge

Some of this is being discussed here.


The Problem with this feat is that if you are reincarnated you could end up being no human any more, thus you lose access to your racial heritage feat and thus you loose access to the feats you took via racial heritage.

At least that's how I understood it.

Grand Lodge

None of them are particularly powerful.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
None of them are particularly powerful.

Thanks, and good! I am new to Pathfinder, and just want to make something I find interesting without cheesing anything out.


Undines have a feat, "Aquatic Ancestry", which says "Your swim speed increases by +10 feet."

Now, all undines have a swim speed, but humans do not, and the swim speed is not a prereq for this feat. Does an Undine Racial Heritage human who takes Aquatic Ancestry gain a swim speed of 10'? If they gain a swim speed via other means (say, wild shape), is that swim speed improved by 10'?


Burrito Al Pastor wrote:

Undines have a feat, "Aquatic Ancestry", which says "Your swim speed increases by +10 feet."

Now, all undines have a swim speed, but humans do not, and the swim speed is not a prereq for this feat. Does an Undine Racial Heritage human who takes Aquatic Ancestry gain a swim speed of 10'? If they gain a swim speed via other means (say, wild shape), is that swim speed improved by 10'?

If you don't have an actual swim speed to increase, no you wouldn't gain a swim speed of 10.

As for wildshape, you wouldn't gain that either:
Transmutation School. Most importantly the "While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form."

Even if you had a swim speed that was increased in your normal form, you'd lose it when you wildshaped/poly'd.


Aquatic Ancestry also states that you gain the Amphibious special quality.
Amphibious:
"Creatures with this special quality have the aquatic subtype, but they can survive indefinitely on land."

the Aquatic Subtype reads
"These creatures always have swim speeds and can move in water without making Swim checks. An aquatic creature can breathe water. It cannot breathe air unless it has the amphibious special quality. Aquatic creatures always treat Swim as a class skill."

I would argue that by virtue of being amphibious, you gain a swim speed.

Grand Lodge

Undines are not Humanoids, and not a valid choice for the Racial Heritage feat.

Stone Giant, yes.

Undine, no.

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