Full Plate + Expeditious Retreat = Final Speed


Rules Questions


Dear All,

Help me calculate final speed of human (30 base) in full plate under expeditious retreat spell. I'm bit confused with wording of this spell

Thank you

Liberty's Edge

The spell increases your base speed by 30ft, not your final speed. You would increase the base speed of the human to 60ft (30ft racial + 30ft enhancement), then apply the reduction from armor for a total move speed of 40ft.

Scarab Sages

StabbittyDoom wrote:
The spell increases your base speed by 30ft, not your final speed. You would increase the base speed of the human to 60ft (30ft racial + 30ft enhancement), then apply the reduction from armor for a total move speed of 40ft.

How did you come up with 40ft. ? Wouldn't it have been base 30 + 30 ER -10 fullplate = 50 ft.?

**EDIT**
Never mind, just saw the table for Armor Encumbrance and other Movement Speeds.
Base Speed Reduced Speed
5 ft. 5 ft.
10 ft.–15 ft. 10 ft.
20 ft. 15 ft.
25 ft.–30 ft. 20 ft.
35 ft. 25 ft.
40 ft.–45 ft. 30 ft.
50 ft. 35 ft.
55 ft.–60 ft. 40 ft.
65 ft. 45 ft.
70 ft.–75 ft. 50 ft.
80 ft. 55 ft.
85 ft.–90 ft. 60 ft.
95 ft. 65 ft.
100 ft.–105 ft. 70 ft.
110 ft. 75 ft.
115 ft.–120 ft. 80 ft.

Liberty's Edge

Ssalarn wrote:
StabbittyDoom wrote:
The spell increases your base speed by 30ft, not your final speed. You would increase the base speed of the human to 60ft (30ft racial + 30ft enhancement), then apply the reduction from armor for a total move speed of 40ft.
How did you come up with 40ft. ? Wouldn't it have been base 30 + 30 ER -10 fullplate = 50 ft.?

Heavy armor is not a flat -10ft, its reduction is based on the move speed of the creature to start. This is covered in Chapter 7 of core. The reduced speed is approximately two thirds (rounded up) of the normal speed.

EDIT: You ninja-edited while I was responding :)


Heavy armor/loads roughly reduce speed to 2/3 what it would be. So for a human (speed 30 normal) w/ expeditious retreat, it should be 40 ft speed due to armor.

For ease of use, the 3E section on encumbrance had a table for speed reductions due to medium/heavy load (it's the same as for medium/heavy armor) that made it simple to check your new speed for various "original" speeds. It's at the bottom of this page: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/carryingCapacity.htm


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