I like other games too, but I dont want to lose out on Campaign Setting material. What I love about Paizo is the flavor material - the more rules supplements they do, the less flavor they can do (without getting bigger, which I believe they are wary of).
It's a minority view, but I wouldnt lose any sleep if the rules line was cutback and the flavor material output increased accordingly. I'd be disappointed (but still subscribe) if they decided to break into other genres in addition to high fantasy.
I do not think that would be a grand idea. They are simply not big enough to split focus without taking away production form current lines. which could cost them.
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I am not interested in any new RPGs as I already have loads that don't see play much. At most I would want to see Paizo support existing games like Savage Worlds and Traveller.
However I would be very interested in Paizo doing some Gamesmastery stuff for other genres than fantasy - flip mats and map packs for a Wild West town (Deadlands!), Space Port (Star Wars d20, Traveller), modern office block (Shadowrun, Espionage possibly even 1920s/30s pulp Deadlands Noir, Thrilling Tales, Cthulhu) etc.
Also some NPC face cards for modern day and wild west would be great.
DigitalMage, check out Maps of Mastery done by Christopher West, or the Gamescapes Story Maps by Savage Mojo.
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They are simply not big enough to split focus without taking away production form current lines. which could cost them.
You are correct... and we also don't want to ever **be* big enough that we *could* split focus to do that.
We believe that properly supporting an RPG takes, well, just about as much effort as we're putting into Pathfinder right now. So to properly support a *second* RPG, we'd need to double up the entire publishing department, and that would also mean we'd need to add more people (though probably not double) in management, finance, customer support, etc.
Not going to happen.
If Pathfinder included more steampunk and sci-fi elements, I wouldn't be disappointed. But I also wouldn't be disappointed if they didn't either. There is still a lot of Golarion that hasn't been detailed. Vudra, Arcadia....
I'd love for pathfinder to pick up Eberron. I've cobbled together about 800 pages of various pathfinder and eberron material from 3.5 on, and converted the races and Artificer base class, but an official conversion with everything in one place would be awesome.
I also yanked out psionics completely. Best thing about pathfinder is not supporting psions IMO.
I have to say, I think it just doesn't work. Every time Wizards or TSR started up another game system, it gradually withered on the vine, and was eventually cancelled, no matter how good. Alternity, anyone? I also think it would have much the same effect as bringing out another setting would - simply lower sales for Pathfinder. Are there lots of people out there who currently aren't customers of Paizo, but would be if they produced a SF or Wild West or Steampunk system? I really doubt there are enough that fall into that camp to support it on its own, which means splitting the existing fanbase. Really not wise, IMO. A successful business isn't about being all things to all people, it's about knowing who your customers are, and serving them well. And if ever a company served its customers well, it's Paizo.
Other systems - don't go there. Until Wizard's gives them the license for Greyhawk, anyway :)
I think the best bet would be a 3pp, willing to really hitch their wagon closely to Pathfinder, to take on the alternate versions. Most likely one publisher to a type (ie., SciFi, Steampunk, etc.). That way the company can follow in the style of Pathfinder. This is done now by Dreamscarred Press supporting Psionics. They concentrate on the sub-genre. They are still targeting players of the standard fantasy world, mostly. I think it would be a good idea for a company to tackle, say SciFi. Adapt the rules for a setting & publish it, with "implied" setting (meaning generic enough for others to use). Maybe then support it a long the same model as Paizo does. APs, adventures, and rules modules only when something seems to be needed. Make an entire conglomerate of publishers supporting the base rules set of Pathfinder with different genres. Paizo concentrates on their slice becuase they are frankly the best at what they do.
I miss James Bond the game originally printed by Victory Games. It has been out of production for a very long time thanks to a fan of Squad Leader. He bought the whole company, but only tried to continue Squad Leader...grrrrrrrrrrr.....
I also miss Star Frontiers. Originally published by TSR....yes, I am one of the hold outs waiting for it to come back.
I really don't care for another setting but I would LOVE to see what Paizo would do if they were to design another system.
I miss James Bond the game originally printed by Victory Games.I have the complete set of James Bond stuff, alas I have not been able to play it much :(
I have both hard copy and pdf of the system and I was able to play it once this year and it went very well...Maybe we can do an online campaign...if we can get enough people involved.
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I miss James Bond the game originally printed by Victory Games. It has been out of production for a very long time thanks to a fan of Squad Leader. He bought the whole company, but only tried to continue Squad Leader...grrrrrrrrrrr.....
I also miss Star Frontiers. Originally published by TSR....yes, I am one of the hold outs waiting for it to come back.
Star Frontiers has such a great feel to it! I'd love a new version.
Hmmm....maybe that would make a good Savage Worlds skin...
EDIT: quickly looking into it, it appears there are good conversions out there, xanthemann!
http://www.savageheroes.com/conversions.htm
Thank you Winter_Born! Being that there is a conversion and the fact that there is D20 Modern, why isn't there a Star Frontiers using the Pathfinder Rules, or is it they would have to name it something else (figuring WotC owns the rights to it)?
Star Finder unless that is taken?
Maybe we can do an online campaign...if we can get enough people involved.Alas I don't get on well with online games, I like the face to face social aspects of RPGing.
I can't say I blame you. I feel the same. I suppose I need to work a little harder to get a JB game going here in my hometown.
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Understanding that Paizo only wants to support one game system which is great! You guys do heck of a job! Maybe more fluff and a items you could round out any other setting....we have the start with firearms already. Actually Ultimate combat started laying out the basic rule set for everything almost to the old west.
Modern, Sci-fi and after the bomb would be a great explanation to the existing rules.....
There is also the makings of a 'Gamma World'-ish game ... I offer for your consideration...Numeria!
Or perhaps a Star Frontier-ish thing.
I'd like to toss an idea into the hat: I've found plenty of love for indie RPGs through Kickstarter and similar projects.
At the risk of sounding like a commercial...Kickstarter is a great place to find new games, and at a reasonable price. You're also supporting someone's dream. Nothing better than that. :)
If you're into board games, it's fantastic for that also.
Here's their board and card games section: http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/categories/board%20&%20card%20games ?ref=sidebar
...it is awesome. :3 You can find some nice "gamer accessories" there also: custom dice, game markers, and so forth.
For Deep, deep very deep roleplay: Das Scwarze Auge(The Black Eye). A german game, so only playable if understand German.
LEgend of the Five Rings(Rokugan).
STar Wars Saga, by Wizards of the coast.
How many of you would like to see Paizo branch out and make games other than Pathfinder?
Actually, I HOPE the so called "Pathfinder 2nd Ed." will be (if it'll ever be at all) a new game altogether. Different name and different everything.
It may be a new game that can be used on Golarion as much as Pathfinder can, or whatever else, I don't care about that on the current oversight of things. As long as Pathfinder remains one, solid and standing, I'm happy for any new game Paizo might want to delve in.Just don't pop out (again) suddenly telling we've all done it wrong till now and a new edition fixes it.
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At the risk of sounding like a commercial...Kickstarter is a great place to find new games, and at a reasonable price. You're also supporting someone's dream.
Yes, Kickstarter is great, I have backed several projects:
Bulldogs! - Sci Fi that Kicks Ass (FATE)The Demolished Ones (FATE)
The Order of the Stick Reprint Drive
Full Moon: An RPG of Life on the Lunar Frontier (FATE)
Deadlands Noir
Midgard Bestiary for 4th Edition
At the risk of sounding like a commercial...Kickstarter is a great place to find new games, and at a reasonable price. You're also supporting someone's dream.Yes, Kickstarter is great, I have backed several projects:
Bulldogs! - Sci Fi that Kicks Ass (FATE)
The Demolished Ones (FATE)
The Order of the Stick Reprint Drive
Full Moon: An RPG of Life on the Lunar Frontier (FATE)
Deadlands Noir
Midgard Bestiary for 4th Edition
I will definitely check those out! Also: DEADLANDS!
One of my favorites is the board game section. Flash Point is an example of a way to get a great deal on a product, just by helping the creator. It's a solid game (7.5 on Board Game Geek), but if you donate, you'll end up getting both expansions, plus some minis...at about $20 less than what you'd pay retail...
I love it. And, I like to help out where I can. There are people out there who have great ideas, great concepts, and just need a bit of help.