Question on removing penalties caused by Dirty Trick


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When using a move action or standard action (Greater Dirty Trick) to remove the Dirty Trick penalty, does this action provoke?


No. Dirty Trick says nothing about the action required to remove conditions caused by the maneuver provoking attacks of opportunity, so it doesn't.


Just seems strange to me that when you are rubbing dirt out of your eyes, or removing a painful knot in your muscle that you don't provoke.

When actions that seem less likely to provoke do provoke AoOs, like drinking a potion.


if removing them provoked, I'm pretty sure that Dirty Trick would be the end-all maneuver.


This came up because I was watching a UFC fight and one of the fighter got accidentally poked or grazed in the eye. When he was rubbing his eyes to relieve the irritation, he was totally provoking.

So I cracked open the rules book and looked up dirty trick but nowhere does it mention if the action to remove the affliction provokes. I guess I should have just assumed that it doesn't.

Anyway we rarely use combat maneuvers anyway, just seems so much more efficient to power attack and kill. Maybe maneuvers can use some loving, without having to play specific archetypes.

Sovereign Court

Compare and contrast:
You're on fire and you try to put out the flames; doesn't provoke.
You're caught in a net and try to get out; provokes.
You use a Dirty Trick to snare up someone's feet in a fishing net, they try to get out; doesn't provoke.

Cheapy's right though; making the penalty removal painful for the target is overkill for one combat maneuver.


Removing the penalty for trip (prone) and disarm (no weapon) both provokes. On top of that trip and disarm allows you to add the weapon enhancement bonus to the CMB check.

Would it really be that over powered that the action removing dirty trick's penalty provokes? You don't get your weapon enhancement bonus to dirty tricks, although it does work on more types of creatures compared with trip and disarm.

Sovereign Court

It works on more types of creatures, can give more severe penalties (blindness, etc), and is much more versatile than Trip and Disarm.

Just for consideration.

Dark Archive

It also only lasts 1 round, (+1 per 5 you go over or 1d4 rounds +1 per 5, if you have spent 2 feats into it) at which time it clears up by itself. While trip and disarm do not go away by themselves and require a possibly provoking action to clear.


If Dirty Trick doesn't provoke AoO, I don't really understand the purpose of it other than the fact that it prevents an enemy from making a full attack. Please, help me to understand what it's usefulness would be if this is the case. I have the feat and can't come up with a thing. I'd like to make use of it if I can.

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