The problem is you are using the D20pfsrd. Try this instead
The D20PFSRD is a great resource for finding equipment and spells but not as good for rules because they sometimes rewrite things in their own interpretation.
A creature with a climb speed of 30' can move 30' as a move equivalent action with NO skill check as long as the DC is 0. If the DC is greater than 0 then they need to make a skill check but can take 10.
If it wants to make a double move it uses the following rule:
If a creature with a climb speed chooses an accelerated climb (see above), it moves at double its climb speed (or at its land speed, whichever is slower) and makes a single Climb check at a –5 penalty.
- Gauss
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That is the 3.5 rules for creatures with a climb speed; d20pfsrd.com has it wrong. For the correct information, go HERE. It is the Climb skill from Paizo's PRD. So, creatures with a climb speed move their climb speed, they still have to roll climb checks for DCs over 0, but they can always take 10. They can try to accelerate their climb to move twice their climb speed (or moves AT its land speed, whichever is less).
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Thread title edited by me so the PFSRD guys will notice it, read the thread, and address this issue.
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Thread title edited by me so the PFSRD guys will notice it, read the thread, and address this issue.
I see the issue and will address it now. Thank you SKR and Dr. Fever for making us aware of this.
Edit: Fixed. Dr. Fever, can you look at the site and see if the confusion has been addressed adequately? Link
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Thanks to Dr. Johnny Fever for the original post and a special thanks to Sean for the extra effort of changing the tread title- that really worked well. You da man Sean!
Oh and also, thanks to cartmanbeck for jumping on it right away. That's the thing I love about collaborative efforts like this.
On a sidenote, I'll be investigating to see exactly who got what wrong, where, and how, so we don't run into this again.
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The problem is you are using the D20pfsrd. Try this instead
The D20PFSRD is a great resource for finding equipment and spells but not as good for rules because they sometimes rewrite things in their own interpretation.
A creature with a climb speed of 30' can move 30' as a move equivalent action with NO skill check as long as the DC is 0. If the DC is greater than 0 then they need to make a skill check but can take 10.
If it wants to make a double move it uses the following rule:
If a creature with a climb speed chooses an accelerated climb (see above), it moves at double its climb speed (or at its land speed, whichever is slower) and makes a single Climb check at a –5 penalty.- Gauss
I'd also like to quickly point out that I don't think the issue was anyone "rewriting the rule in their own interpretation", it was simply a copy-paste error that didn't make sense out of context. The part that was in parenthesis was the text that you were supposed to "see above", and when it was replaced in such a way it lost its meaning. That's one problem that you constantly have to face when editing such a huge amount of information.
Thank you all again for pointing this out, and I assure you that we always try to be as accurate as humanly possible on the PFSRD site.
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Monster Universal Abilities page, Version 71, dated 12/07/10 added the Climb ability. It was not on that page prior to that date. I also see the following differences:
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"Climb: A creature with a climb speed has a +8 racial bonus on all Climb checks. The creature must make a Climb check to climb any wall or slope with a DC higher than 0, but it can always choose to take 10, even if rushed or threatened while climbing. If a creature with a climb speed chooses an accelerated climb (by accepting a –5 penalty, it can move half its speed (instead of one-quarter its speed), it moves at double its climb speed (or at its land speed, whichever is slower) and makes a single Climb check at a –5 penalty.
Such a creature retains its Dexterity bonus to Armor Class (if any) while climbing, and opponents get no special bonus to their attacks against it. It cannot, however, use the run action while climbing."
"Climb: A creature with a climb speed has a +8 racial bonus on all Climb checks. The creature must make a Climb check to climb any wall or slope with a DC higher than 0, but it can always choose to take 10, even if rushed or threatened while climbing. If a creature with a climb speed chooses an accelerated climb (see above), it moves at double its climb speed (or at its land speed, whichever is slower) and makes a single Climb check at a –5 penalty.
Such a creature retains its Dexterity bonus to Armor Class (if any) while climbing, and opponents get no special bonus to their attacks against it. It cannot, however, use the run action while climbing.
So the difference as I see it, is we replaced "(see above)" with "(by accepting a –5 penalty, it can move half its speed (instead of one-quarter its speed.)"
I apologize if I insulted the great work the D20PFSRD people do. I use the D20PFSRD as a resource all the time. My only problem is with people who treat it as a rules source that is 100% correct. Even the PRD is not 100% correct (compare the PRD light spell to the CRB 5th printing light spell sometime).
- Gauss
