So I'm about to start playing in a game as a Rogue (Charlatan) and I'm planning on taking Improved Feint in order to sneak attack more often. The real reason I'm playing the Charlatan was for it's 3rd level ability (which is the Rumormonger Advanced Rogue Talent) but my question is about their first level ability: Natural Born Liar. The ability states "At first level, when a charlatan successfully deceives a creature with a Bluff, that creature takes a -2 penalty on the charlatan's Bluff checks for the next 24 hours." I'm assuming the -2 penalty on the charlatan's Bluff checks means that they take a -2 on their Sense Motive checks to know if I'm Bluffing. The question I had however was, when I successfully Feint in combat, do they take a -2 on my other Bluff checks (including additional Feints) for 24 hours?
Many abilities that modify Bluff but not feint specifically say so in some way.
Based on that, I'd say it works on feint. It's kind of at odds with the fluff though, so I'm not 100% convinced, but eh.
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I'd have to agree that based on the RAW, you could use that ability in conjunction with your feints. The only argument I could see to the contrary would be that it specifies "when a charlatan successfully deceives a creature with Bluff". This might mean that it was meant for the specific application of Bluff as used to deceive.... But the argument could easily be made that successfully feinting IS successfully deceiving. I'd probably allow it if I were DMing.
The only argument I could see to the contrary would be that it specifies "when a charlatan successfully deceives a creature with Bluff". This might mean that it was meant for the specific application of Bluff as used to deceive.... But the argument could easily be made that successfully feinting IS successfully deceiving.
I was thinking the same thing actually. I'll probably end up just asking the DM for the game as it's not PFS and he has the final say anyway.
Just want to say that the Charlatan is probably my favorite rogue archetype. Should be a ton of fun for you. Mine gets her bluff bonus on feints, though.