So I was working on a monk/druid multiclass and I was wondering whether Improved Unarmed Strike:
A monk's unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons.
would qualify as a natural attack as per Multiattacks requirements:
Prerequisite: Three or more natural attacks.
So if a form had two natural attacks normally (i.e. two slams for elementals), would improved unarmed strike from a monk make it three (and thus qualify for multiattack?)
prototype00
No.
Fair enough, would you like to elaborate why? The monk's unarmed strike is (as per my reading) apparently treated as a natural attack for "effects that improve natural attacks" which multiattack is, isn't it?
prototype00
So if a form had two natural attacks normally (i.e. two slams for elementals), would improved unarmed strike from a monk make it three (and thus qualify for multiattack?)
Strictly speaking? Maybe. If we consider Multiattack a "spell or effect that enhance or improve natural weapons", which I guess it is? I'm fairly confident it wasn't the intention though, and if I was to make a quick GM ruling, I'd say that only attacks that would benefit from Multiattack can count towards the requirements of Multiattack.
It doesn't work. The monk don't actually have natural attacks, his unarmed attacks only count as such for spells and effects.
For the combination, you can take Feral Combat Training, which allow you to flurry with your natural attack. Thus, depending on your levels, you are likely to get more than two slam attacks in Earth Elemental Form.
It doesn't work. The monk don't actually have natural attacks, his unarmed attacks only count as such for spells and effects.
For the combination, you can take Feral Combat Training, which allow you to flurry with your natural attack. Thus, depending on your levels, you are likely to get more than two slam attacks in Earth Elemental Form.
Eh, I'd rather just tack the slam attacks onto the end of a full attack TWF sequence (no flurrying, since I've given it up for the archetype) as secondary natural attacks. Even at the -5 penalty, they're still worth it.
Slight shame multiattack doesn't work for this particular case, but there are quite a few shapes with three or more natural attacks where it will work.
prototype00
Unarmed Strikes do not fit well into the system.
They are not and can not be mixed with natural attacks. They are never treated as natural attacks. Spells and effects that affect them always name them (effects your natural and unarmed attacks).
So Feral Combat Training does NOT allow your wildshaped/polymorphed Monk to add any number of attacks to your Flurry of Blows.
This feat exists to change the no synergy that the Monk has with the Duid into a weak synergy.
Yeah, I mistook Unarmed Strike with Flurry of Blows.
Far Away since last post:
Let me ask something:
If I have an Half-Orc Barbarian with the Toothy trait + Lesser Beast Totem, I will get 3 Natural attacks.
I will accomplish the requirements for Multiattack?