Eidolon and Dimensional Anchor


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Hello guys!
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the summoner class: it's beautyful. The problem is that it's too strong :(
I casually discovered that the other players want to kill my Eidolon partially because of the story, but for the most part because they think i'm too strong (what can i do if the master doesn't use my weaknesses?!..)
they're going to use Dimensional Anchor on my pet and then they want to kill him, and they think that in this way my eidolon cannot come back to his plan, and he'll die. Are they right?
if they want to kill me it's ok, they can try, but i want a correct fighting (where i'll win), not this kind of deception! I hope that their strategy doesn't work, but i don't know... help me, please!


The Eidolon is not too strong. You do have to make sure all the rules are being followed. Many times the player or GM is not following all the rules, and that is an issue. Another problem is that if the GM is not prepared for the class, or if the player that is using the class is better at building and/or playing the game than the others then it can upset table balance.

What specifically are the complaining about?
Give combat details if possible. People are using the class without an issue so I am thinking adjustment need to be made at your table.


i don't have my sheet here (the DM preferes to take care of them) but i have a huge biped eidolon based on claws and to butcher with them, and it's quite strong... the others are strong too, but they decided to kill my pet. I know they'll not kill me because of the story (i'm the only one who knows how to kill the enemy), but they don't like my eidolon...


Rettile wrote:
i don't have my sheet here (the DM preferes to take care of them) but i have a huge biped eidolon based on claws and to butcher with them, and it's quite strong... the others are strong too, but they decided to kill my pet. I know they'll not kill me because of the story (i'm the only one who knows how to kill the enemy), but they don't like my eidolon...

If I was you I would make a copy of the character sheet. I can't stand not to have a copy of my own sheet. The only time I ever kept a sheet for a player was because he kept showing up without it, and even then it was an agreement we made.

Even if they kill it, it will come back.

PRD wrote:


Dimensional Anchor

Duration 1 min./level

Actually if they cast this spell on it then it won't be able to leave, but you might not want to mention that part since the GM might rule that it counts against the duration until you can summon it again.


PRD, dimensional anchor wrote:
Also, dimensional anchor does not prevent summoned creatures from disappearing at the end of a summoning spell.

The eidolon, like any summoned creature, is a representation of an extraplanar creature that physically manifests on the material plane. You can't permanently kill the creature on the material plane.


WRoy wrote:
PRD, dimensional anchor wrote:
Also, dimensional anchor does not prevent summoned creatures from disappearing at the end of a summoning spell.

The eidolon, like any summoned creature, is a representation of an extraplanar creature that physically manifests on the material plane. You can't permanently kill the creature on the material plane.

Good catch Wroy. I thought that was in there, but I missed it so I then assumed I was wrong.


wraithstrike wrote:
WRoy wrote:
PRD, dimensional anchor wrote:
Also, dimensional anchor does not prevent summoned creatures from disappearing at the end of a summoning spell.

The eidolon, like any summoned creature, is a representation of an extraplanar creature that physically manifests on the material plane. You can't permanently kill the creature on the material plane.

Good catch Wroy. I thought that was in there, but I missed it so I then assumed I was wrong.

Well, they aren't so much a summoned creature (Conjuration(summoning)) as they are something brought forth through Conjuration(class feature) :)

Rettile, remember that you can completely reconfigure your eidolon every level. You can easily re-do it so that it's less marginalizing.


thank you guys :)

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Also, at the end of the Dimensional Ancor spell:

Quote:
Also, dimensional anchor does not prevent summoned creatures from disappearing at the end of a summoning spell.

It would not stop your Eidolon from being dismissed (which ends the spell).


Your group can use any spells they want, they will never, ever be able to 'permanently' kill your eidolon since it is magically summoned piece of and incarnation of a much larger otherdimensional concept/creature that you form in any visage you wish.

The only way to permanently kill a summoners Eidolon is to permanently kill the summoner who calls it, since every Eidolon is technically unique to each Summoner.

Dimensional Anchor does nothing more than keeping someonething from magically traveling. No more and no less. If they manage to put it on your Eidolon and then kill it it will have 0 effect on it's ability to eventually return.


Well, if your teammates WANT to do intra-party fighting...

(this is a bad idea, by the way)

Don't let them know they're wrong. Just dismiss the eidolon (dimensional anchor won't do anything)

Then stop the game and ask them to explain their actions and why they are trying to ruin the game you GM organized.

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