Situation:
You are invisible in melee with your attacker. Your attacker cannot see invisible, but may or may not know which square you are in as they attack one of your friends.
As an immediate action you cast Compel Hostility
1. Do you become visible?
2. If you do NOT become visible do they attempt to attack you where they best believe you are or does the spell fizzle?
Please advise.
1.Yes. You effectively target them with an effect, and that is an attack for the purpose of invisibility.
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re: 2), assuming Grt Invisibility/Dust of Disappearance/etc, I would say that they do their best to target you, which if they think you are in a given square they could blindly attack there.
I think that leads to that the spell implicitly requires that the target know of your existence (along with threatening you), since if they didn't even know you are in the area, then they couldn't complete the Compulsion (and 'doing nothing instead of attacking' is not the spell effect).
I would rule that it is an attack since the target gets a saving throw, thus meaning the witch would become visible.
Reading the spell, it has to threaten you. It will drop normal invis and with greater invis using it will basically tell te monster what square yiu ard in as you force it to attack you.
"You feel hostile and angry. You don't know why, or at whom you should direct this hostility."
"HULK SMASH!"
Reading the spell, it has to threaten you. It will drop normal invis and with greater invis using it will basically tell te monster what square yiu ard in as you force it to attack you.
how? AFAIK, the target might feel 'a tingle' but no other info is revealed. of course, they would get a perception check to notice you / the casting of the spell, but i'm not sure they know your exact square without a succesful perception check.
It still has to attack a square that it threatens that isn't its original target. If it can't determine which square you occupy, it just has to swing blindly at a square unoccupied as if attacking an invisible creature (likely you are invisible or treated as invisible, which is causing the problem). Attacking a square blindly should probably be rolled randomly (if an NPC) and, if the right square is picked, the caster would get a 50% miss chance from having total concealment.
You have to attack something, the spell compels you to. You have to attack something you believe might be the caster. If you can't tell where the caster is, you have to attack into somewhere that you threaten and hope to get lucky.
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Prepare an action to cast Invisibility and 5ft step after casting Compel Hostility.
Compel Hostility has a duration in rounds.
Target is chosen and forced to take a will save each round as an immediate action.
Prepare an action to cast Invisibility and 5ft step after casting Compel Hostility.Compel Hostility has a duration in rounds.
Target is chosen and forced to take a will save each round as an immediate action.
Incorrect. The target is under the spell for a duration and, as YOUR immediate action, you may choose to compel the target to attack you if you can perceive it and it threatens you. It doesn't just automatically lose its immediate action each round. You can choose to use yours to prevent an attack on an ally.
Incorrect. The target is under the spell for a duration and, as YOUR immediate action, you may choose to compel the target to attack you if you can perceive it and it threatens you. It doesn't just automatically lose its immediate action each round. You can choose to use yours to prevent an attack on an ally.Prepare an action to cast Invisibility and 5ft step after casting Compel Hostility.Compel Hostility has a duration in rounds.
Target is chosen and forced to take a will save each round as an immediate action.
Also incorrect: this spell affects the caster granting him, for one round/level, ability to use imemdiate action to redirect attacks targeting allies to oneself. The attacker can be different each round as long as the caster sees the attacker and the attacker is threatening the caster (this implies melee attacks but it does not call melee attacks explicitly). The attacker gets a Will save against the redirect and the caster has to penetrate the attacker's SR if any.
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Incorrect. The target is under the spell for a duration and, as YOUR immediate action, you may choose to compel the target to attack you if you can perceive it and it threatens you. It doesn't just automatically lose its immediate action each round. You can choose to use yours to prevent an attack on an ally.
Whenever a creature you can see that threatens you makes an attack against one of your allies, as an immediate action, you can compel that creature to attack you instead.
I provided a link with the full spell text. Please review the spell before posting.
I did read the spell. The statement I responded to seemed to imply to me that the target was spending an immediate action to make the save. This does not seem to be the case as I read the spell. The caster spends the immediate action to force the opponent to make the save (with the save itself being a non-action).
I read the "as an immediate action" phrase as modifying the following clause "you can compel a creature".
That's what I was saying. I was mistaken (through a poor reading) that the spell affected an external target. I missed the "personal" line in the targeting section. That does not, however, change who spends the action to force the compulsion.