Spell Mastery


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I did a little searching on this and mostly found a "by rules as written no but houseruling sounds great" What I want to ask is for any dev's or PFS mods opinion or if theres been a clerification or errata or if not an opinion on if it should be changed to allow a magus to take spell mastery.

It's a great if somewhat limited feat for those wizards worried about losing access to thier spell books. To my mind it could be very handy for a magus who doesn't prepare a large variety of spells on a normal day anyways. On most given days where my magus is expecting a fight and wants to bring the pain he's got alot of copies of shocking grasp prepared with an assortment of metamagic applied to them, maybe a few long range spells just in case, and some buffs. Basically I'm hoping to be able to take it as a little bit of insurance against not having the book available for whatever reason and allow me to still function as close to normal as possible without using a bunch of my arcane pool on knowledge Pool.

I know any errata on the spell to make it comprehensive and allow all arcane prepared casters might be tricky, and just listing the classes would just mean new errata any time a new prepared class gets added to the game. If I can get some sort of official response besides sorry not RAW that would be great but if not I understand.

Asta
PSY


Related question: If you take the feat and your Int goes up permanently do you get to add another spell to your list of mastered spells?

Grand Lodge

Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Related question: If you take the feat and your Int goes up permanently do you get to add another spell to your list of mastered spells?

I'd allow it as a GM, but that's strictly a houserule.


You forgot the question part. I gather it's whether a Magus can take Spell Mastery?

Grand Lodge

Cheapy wrote:
You forgot the question part. I gather it's whether a Magus can take Spell Mastery?

A Magus can, but it'd be sorta redundant, especially with Knowledge Pool


LazarX wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
You forgot the question part. I gather it's whether a Magus can take Spell Mastery?
A Magus can, but it'd be sorta redundant, especially with Knowledge Pool

Well, the issue is that magus isn't a wizard, and the feat requires wizards. This is for PFS.

And he doesn't want to spend all his arcana points on Knowledge Pool, as he said in the original post.

I guess Extra Arcana Pool would be a rough, rough estimation of Spell Mastery, but wouldn't help with metamagic.

Grand Lodge

Cheapy wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
You forgot the question part. I gather it's whether a Magus can take Spell Mastery?
A Magus can, but it'd be sorta redundant, especially with Knowledge Pool

Well, the issue is that magus isn't a wizard, and the feat requires wizards. This is for PFS.

And he doesn't want to spend all his arcana points on Knowledge Pool, as he said in the original post.

I guess Extra Arcana Pool would be a rough, rough estimation of Spell Mastery, but wouldn't help with metamagic.

PFS rule guidelines don't have a line for judges that goes "Make sure you target the player caster's spellbook."

You also have to keep in mind that when the feat was created, the only class that prepared spells from a book was the Wizard. I assume the first level wizard requirement was added to keep idiot sorcerer players from choosing a feat which did then no good whatsoever.

Metamagic is not an issue. Metamagic is a feat, you can apply metamgaic to spells prepared from spell mastery. Spell mastery is essentially a virtual spellbook. Just like standard spellbooks metamagic is not an issue as to how spells are put in it.


LazarX wrote:


PFS rule guidelines don't have a line for judges that goes "Make sure you target the player caster's spellbook."

You also have to keep in mind that when the feat was created, the only class that prepared spells from a book was the Wizard. I assume the first level wizard requirement was added to keep idiot sorcerer players from choosing a feat which did then no good whatsoever.

Metamagic is not an issue. Metamagic is a feat, you can apply metamgaic to spells prepared from spell mastery. Spell mastery is essentially a virtual spellbook. Just like standard spellbooks metamagic is not an issue as to how spells are put in it.

Not sure how the first comment is relevant.

Yes, one absolutely has to keep that in mind, however PFS is not the place to do that. You need to go as written, and as written, it's wizard only.

And I'm not sure why I included the bit about metamagic. Lack of coffee, probably.

Grand Lodge

Quite frankly as a Magus with that question what I'd do would be to make a second emergency spellbook with the spells you'd intend for spell mastery. Totally within PFS and saves you the feat slot. It's also better that you can add to that spellbook as well.

I've yet to run a session in PFS where PC's have been stripped much less a spellbook lost.

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