We have been playing our current game for about 2-3 months now and while it has been a slow process and with my build slowly getting better as we lvl the gear upgrades haven't been needed. As with the Kensai I get a boost to AC with my Int bonus(+3) so each level from 2 and 3 added one to AC and when I hit lvl 4 I added a point to my Dex to bump it again. So after 4 levels my AC has gone up 3 points with no gear. Also with my Black blade my weapon has gone from a scimitar to a +1 scimitar black blade and with the Dervish Dance build I went from a +0 melee attack at lvl 1 to a +9 at lvl 4. So I really have no issue with how my character is progressing, but my lack of need of loot has me usually just writting down what we get and thinking ok we can sell this and this and this... then when something drops the party can use I am ok with letting the party have it cause what works for the party works for everyone.
My issue is since I am technically getting no loot atm. will this be a problem later on. I plan on taking crafting wonderous items so I can make a few pieces to boost my stats which will help my AC and other skills. Should I start taking loots no one wants to sell solo or should I just continue to keep a group loot mind set to please the party? I only have 9 STR as a Gnome so unless I make a bag of holding at lvl 5 I usually will need someone to carry things for me.
Has anyone else had problems as a Blade Bound Kensai and not getting their share of loot?
We are all friends and game together regularly. I am the more experienced played and usually the least worried about loot. I know the nature of the others and have built my character to try to limit looting issues(there have been small disagreements in the past). However, I don't want them to just assume since I dont NEED anything that I don't WANT anything. I might not be able to use it, but it doesn't mean I want to split the gold 4 ways (at least not on everything) when they are getting magic items and then an equal share in the gold. Ideas? I may be able to work out a deal with GM to let me sell off the gear they upgrade from since usually they grab new gear and forget old gear. Just a thought...
Well, one question is why is no loot dropping for your character? Sure, you don't need a weapon or armor, but there are tons of wondrous items that you could be using.
I would discuss things with your GM and see if items that you can use are ever going to drop for your character. If no items are coming then you are due a greater portion of the value of items that get sold so that you can make up the difference when you get Craft Wondrous Item. Either that, or charge the other players if they try ask you to make anything for them. It won't be a perfect science either way... if it seems like you are starting to get too much, then rebalance the loot distribution.
If the other players or GM complain that you already have a 'free' magic item (your blackblade), then point out that you had to give up abilities for that sword...
The way we've always done it is to look up the GP value of everything we get, everyone gets an equal share of that total value. Let's say you have armor with 2000gp, a sword worth 4000gp, and 10,000gp in gems and gold. In a 4 person party, each person would get 4000gp of loot. If someone wanted the sword, that's all they get. Someone else could take the armor and 2000gp in gems, and the other two would split the 8,000gp in gold and gems (4k each).
My group does it the same way as Jodokai's group with a twist, we add a share for 'party fund' so that our consumables etc come out of the party fund.
- Gauss
We have been playing our current game for about 2-3 months now and while it has been a slow process and with my build slowly getting better as we lvl the gear upgrades haven't been needed. As with the Kensai I get a boost to AC with my Int bonus(+3) so each level from 2 and 3 added one to AC and when I hit lvl 4 I added a point to my Dex to bump it again. So after 4 levels my AC has gone up 3 points with no gear. Also with my Black blade my weapon has gone from a scimitar to a +1 scimitar black blade and with the Dervish Dance build I went from a +0 melee attack at lvl 1 to a +9 at lvl 4. So I really have no issue with how my character is progressing, but my lack of need of loot has me usually just writting down what we get and thinking ok we can sell this and this and this... then when something drops the party can use I am ok with letting the party have it cause what works for the party works for everyone.
My issue is since I am technically getting no loot atm. will this be a problem later on. I plan on taking crafting wonderous items so I can make a few pieces to boost my stats which will help my AC and other skills. Should I start taking loots no one wants to sell solo or should I just continue to keep a group loot mind set to please the party? I only have 9 STR as a Gnome so unless I make a bag of holding at lvl 5 I usually will need someone to carry things for me.
Has anyone else had problems as a Blade Bound Kensai and not getting their share of loot?
We are all friends and game together regularly. I am the more experienced played and usually the least worried about loot. I know the nature of the others and have built my character to try to limit looting issues(there have been small disagreements in the past). However, I don't want them to just assume since I dont NEED anything that I don't WANT anything. I might not be able to use it, but it doesn't mean I want to split the gold 4 ways (at least not on everything) when they are getting magic items and then an equal share in the gold. Ideas? I...
Idea 1: talk to the DM about it. If he's not tossing any loot out that you can use, thats an issue he needs to resolve. However, your DM may not be tailoring loot. If he's using a module or AP he might not be tinkering with loot at all. In that case:
idea 2: Keep doing as you are doing now. If you are of the opinion that the group matters more than your own self getting loot, then keep it up. When something drops that you /do/ need and/or want though it'll go to you first and foremost because you've been passing on the other loot so much.
IMO I wouldn't worry about WBL among the party. Worry about your individual power level. If you are all on the same page power wise- don't worry about how many GP of items you have.
Wealth is a method to keep the power level of everyone equal. If your power level is already equal, there is no real reason for your character to get more loot. Now this is also fairly well metagaming.. but can also work out well "in character". For example, if your friends are getting hit more than you do and are hitting less often and for less damage than you do, then giving them more stuff while you take less makes a good bit of sense.
It also avoids the issue of you getting more gear just to get stronger and leave the party in the dust. This tends to involve a "you and DM" having a convo- and they are seldom pleasant ones.
I'd probably do both though. Talk to the DM about some loots that are more tailored to you, and work with the group to make sure everyone is at the same power level.
-S
One additional thought: Maybe your GM is giving you spells for your spellbook instead of items and thinking that this is enough? Even if you're powerful enough to not be needing more magical items you should at least be getting more spells.
We are running a premade AP (Carrion Crown)
The group makeup is a Cleric, Inquisitor, and Druid with a bow. So the loot has helped a good deal with the Inquisitor getting to bump AC and Weapon (unfortunately no one is proficient with the keen longsword), Cleric bumped AC and got a ranged option, and the druid got a bump in AC and some magic arrows.
As Selgard stated I have been passing on the loots so I expected first pick on the very few things I will be able to use... However, We have gotten a ring of protection +1 that everyone is interested in(as per usual). I have kinda mentioned I wouldn't mind it since I cant use any of ther other things and they all bumped AC with other gear, but since the druid hasn't gotten anything specificly magic yet she also wants it. This would bump her to 18 AC which is what I have. So while I probably need it more since I am more often in Melee. I was going to give it to her to avoid the party conflict. However, she might let me have it. We haven't discussed loot split when we finished it was late. We both just kinda mentioned we wouldn't mind it. Also considered giving it to the inquisitor just to bump the AC over 20 since she is usually in the front taking on the BBEGso having her AC higher never hurts.
What Jodokai suggests would be a good option, but that is just to serious for the group. I am really the only person that gets that into it and if I suggested something like that they would be confused and feel like I was seperating the group to much. They don't treat the game as adventurers just meeting and out for themselves... they treat it like we have been friends since HS lets not dick each other over, but if sumthing shinny drops I WANT IT! eventhough it might be better for someone else. They are to casual for a cut throat game. I have learned to accept it.
The GM hasn't given me any special spells or bonuses to anything and I am not going to ask for any special treatment cause my class is built around this style(aka I did it to myself). I just was wondering if I can expect to constantly get over looked when it comes to loot. Since I will usually just get a share of the gold and get no actual loot they will slowly out value me unless I outfit myself which comes at a cost. I do plan on charging them a slight bit if they expect me to craft stuff for them to make up for that loss I can make it for 50% or they can buy it from town for 100% so I can get it to you for 75% multiply that x3 and I come out ok. I was going to use this to equal it out a bit. Instead of complaining about the actual splits. It seems the only way to actually balance it without looking like an ass and having people complain about things. I might still get the evil eyes from the GMs wife as she usually just expects things to go her way, but Im not married to her so I dont get bothered by her eyes that she thinks are so intimidating.
I think for the most part it will all work out, but I was just curious as to if others have had issues in the past.
I would take an equal share. You still need loot.
Spells for your spell book.
Rings of protection and Amulet of Natural Armor.
Bag of Holding
Stat boosting Items
Who doesnt need a nice shiny set of magical boots.
ect.