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Danke and Happy Egg Day all
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The short answer is "yes", as James Jacobs has said in a past thread (though i can't find it now) that Augment Summoning works on the summoner's SLA summons. Also if you look at the Master Summoner archetype, they get Augment Summoning as a bonus feat, and if it didnt' work on their SLA summons then what would be the point?
Jason Bulmahn, lead designer of PF, saying that Augment Summons works on it.
Which is fine (it not applying to the Eid). It's an afterthought in the build in any case. But while I'm here, here is another question I've seen played both ways.
Does Boon Companion apply to Eidolons?
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Boon Companion predates the summoner class and as such was not written with them in mind.
The author of the feat said on the boards here that had the summoner existed when he wrote it that he would have included them in it.
But as it stands the RAW is no.
So take that as you need,
James
Do you have a link for that?
Do you have a link for that?
Sorry, not offhand. It wasn't recent by any means.
-James
I've searched the author's posts, and don't see anything like that =/ It might be an odd wording on his part that's foiling my search attempts though.
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I want to add this about Boon Companion. Paizo has said they do not want the feat to work with Eidolons. They said the Eidolon was the main feature of the class. As such, it would be far more powerful for a multiclass summoner than a multiclass arcane caster with a familiar or a druid with an animal companion. I agree, the summoner class really is the Eidolon. Thus, putting it to work with the eidolon would be very strong, maybe more than what is good for the game. Than again, maybe not. Both the summoner and Eidolon can be rather vurnable. Even if spending points on evolution armor, it away from other stuff.
The closest comparison would be the value of a druids animal companion. A well designed Eidolon should trump an animal companion. Even if you disagree with that, we should be able to agree that the Eidolon is at least much more customizable than a list of animal companions. The druid has much better spell casting and shapchanging. The druid herself trumps the summoner himself with slower spell progression and evolutions on himself that take away from the Eidolon. You can see the animal companion is not the main feature of the druid but the Eidolon is the main feature of the summoner.
I am curious how boon companion works well with a cavalier? The mount uses the same rules for a druid animal companion. I suspect the druid spells and wildshape are superior to the better weapons, armor, and BAB of a cavalier. Does that make the mount too heavy of a class feature to allow boon companion for it?
Anyway, I'm adding to this post a display of my passion for the summoner class. I just got a summoner to semi retirement in PFSOP at level 12 with The "PAPPA"-teer. I have another summoner in the society almost at level 4, and my next gm credit pc will be a synthesist summoner. All three of these PCs use the same class but are played with different combat machanics for a unique feel to each of them. I am even thinking about playing another summoner useing a small size race with the lance feat chain. That makes me wonder, can a summoner and Eidolon both attack when doing stuff like a ride by attack? I will ask that in another thread soon.
Right now, we have a feat that doesn't work with eidolons, someone vaguely saying it does work with them, and someone vaguely saying it doesn't.
Right now, you shouldn't be looking for a link that says it doesn't work. You should be looking for a link for someone with (Developer) or (Lead Designer) after their name saying it does work.
Until then, kust go with the feat, that doesn't say it works with Eidolons.
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If playing in society organized play, do not try it. If in a home campaign, present the info here(in depth information not always readily realized without considering the topic) so the DM may be informed and ask for special permission. I would sugguest changing it to something more like only adding 2 levels of improvement to your eidolon and only useable up to your hit dice. Similar to the 3.5 feat Practiced Spell Caster and the paizo trait Mgical Knack. Their was also a race in 3.5 called the Illumian that had an option like this for spell casting.
Maybe an even weaker feat with only hit dice improvements(bab, saves, skills) or level features but not both. At least not with one feat. The feat system gives us tools, raw materials, and room to work with for us to come up with something balanced, we just have to figure out where that is.
