An npc witch (lvl 7 or 8) is ticking off my character. my character is an angry drunk (drunken master monk lvl 7) so he basically hates anyone who is slightly annoying. i want to kill the witch, but she is close friends with an overpowered summoner who is currently my ally and this witch is the party healer.
i want comments and suggestions on how to kill her, if this is a good idea, etc.
i want comments and suggestions on how to kill her, if this is a good idea, etc.
Speak to the GM and see what s/he thinks of you doing so. If s/he has no problem, you just have to find a way to do so without the summoner finding out.
There was a recent thread where someone murdered another PC in their sleep. Probably a good reference on the how once the GM's on board. I think it was titled "To murder a fellow player character".
Edit: To clarify, I only suggest speaking with the GM since it's technically a party member you're killing, NPC or no.
Actually i get an attack called quivering palm, but i dont get it until lvl 15. look here for the description:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk
Actually i get an attack called quivering palm, but i dont get it until lvl 15.
Probably unnecessary. A CDG and a x4 crit weapon really should be all you need if you can find a way to catch the witch asleep.
Actually i get an attack called quivering palm, but i dont get it until lvl 15.Probably unnecessary. A CDG and a x4 crit weapon really should be all you need if you can find a way to catch the witch asleep.
funny you'd say that... the witch has a sytche (X4 crits) and a sleep hex.
EDIT: that hex is F**KING BROKEN. it works twice per target a day. we killed a monster that almost OHKO'd me with that hex and a sneak attack. also, after it first hits, you can't wake up no matter what for a number of rounds. (another reason i hate her)
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EDIT: that hex is F**KING BROKEN. it works twice per target a day. we killed a monster that almost OHKO'd me with that hex and a sneak attack. also, after it first hits, you can't wake up no matter what for a number of rounds. (another reason i hate her)
Actually, anyone can wake the target up with a standard action. Also, any damage to the target wakes it up. Lastly, someone can only be targeted twice a day if they succeed on the first one. Essentially, a certain target can only be Sleep'd once per day, the witch just gets a second shot with Accursed Hex.
The guy who told me about his witch character said that you don't get to wake up, but i should probably double-check facts next time.
Also, any damage to the target wakes it up.
We one-shot it with a sneak attack CDG while it was asleep.
Is it you, the player who doesn't want a NPC running with the party, or your PC that hates the witch? In other words, is this OOC or IC?
Is it you, the player who doesn't want a NPC running with the party, or your PC that hates the witch? In other words, is this OOC or IC?
sort of both. she acts like a b#%+~ to my character and once she used her sleep hex on me in combat (thanks natural 1's you make my life so much better!).
Is it you, the player who doesn't want a NPC running with the party, or your PC that hates the witch? In other words, is this OOC or IC?
My character is an angry drunk (drunken master monk lvl 7) so he basically hates anyone who is slightly annoying.
I would say IC DrDeth
I feel like this is going to probably end terribly...
I feel like this is going to probably end terribly...
LOL totally
It sounds like the problem is some of the stuff in the game is ticking you off and I would suggest that this, rather than the witch, is the issue to tackle. Talk to the GM - 'GM-favourite NPCs' is a flaw in my own GMing I know. If she's one of these, you can't kill her, she'll wake up at the wrong time, the summoner will find out no matter what you do, something. So sort out the problem at source like grown ups because trying to get back at the GM is bound to end in tears. If you're determine to try to kill her, best kill the summoner first - a CDG while he sleeps should do it - then you can kill the witch too. But don't say didn't warn you.
"Talk to the GM - 'GM-favourite NPCs' is a flaw in my own GMing I know."
-"Elinor Knutsdottir"
My GM already has a similar witch character in another campaign , so that will probably make the NPC witch expendable to him. He was obviously careless when he made this NPC; it's alignment is 'democratic', it's age is 'old enough', it's height is 'tall enough', and it's weight is 'now that's just rude'. and i told him that i was asking for advice on this already, he obviously doesn't give a s***.
"It sounds like the problem is some of the stuff in the game is ticking you off and I would suggest that this, rather than the witch, is the issue to tackle."
-"Elinor Knutsdottir"
"my character is an angry drunk (drunken master monk lvl 7) so he basically hates anyone who is slightly annoying"
-"drunken-master-on-a-fifth-of-vodka-with-rufies"
Between my avatar name and that quote, i'd say you're way off there. I DO CRAZY S*** WHEN I RP.
Either way, my character is LN so i probably won't kill the witch anyway.
If you're determine to try to kill her, best kill the summoner first - a CDG while he sleeps should do it - then you can kill the witch too.
Then we'd ALL be screwed in my party. we'd get killed so easily.
So he hates people - then tell them they are idiots like normal people.
Or break the witches legs - killing is big thing - even in a setting where people can be brought back. Seriously the cost of a raise dead is like years and years of a commoners income.
What aligment are your drunken guy? Some kind of evil? If people allowed one of their co-players to be evil i guess they wanted these kinds of intriqes, if you didn't talk about it before play - then do that before next session.
If he isn't evil then your char could be thinking about killing without doing anything about it. Consider just making drunken remarks about time for a bonfire, whenever the witch is around. It's give more RP and fun - instead of just ending the story/conflict with a kill.
So he hates people - then tell them they are idiots like normal people.
Or break the witches legs - killing is big thing - even in a setting where people can be brought back. Seriously the cost of a raise dead is like years and years of a commoners income.
What aligment are your drunken guy? Some kind of evil? If people allowed one of their co-players to be evil i guess they wanted these kinds of intriqes, if you didn't talk about it before play - then do that before next session.
If he isn't evil then your char could be thinking about killing without doing anything about it. Consider just making drunken remarks about time for a bonfire, whenever the witch is around. It's give more RP and fun - instead of just ending the story/conflict with a kill.
I'm LN. and i'll probably try to RP as best as possible when (if) i kill the witch.
Killing someone in cold blood, at the very least you would be come NE, if not CE
Killing someone in cold blood, at the very least you would be come NE, if not CE
That's definitely going to be a problem. maybe i'll just take more ranks in intimidate to get her to stop being a jerk.
EDIT: that would prevent my character from leveling up in monk. that puts killing out of the question, i really like my monk character.
That's definitely going to be a problem. maybe i'll just take more ranks in intimidate to get her to stop being a jerk.
Just in game thinking about it your DM might change you to CN, loosing your ability to level up as a monk. If in game you don't think about it, and then one night go into a drunken rage after she has been ebbing you on for a few hours. You might be able to plea with your dm that is was insanity.
TLDR; If ya think about it in game, it is premeditation murder, which is not neutral or lawful
EDIT: You can always stop leveling as a monk and start on the monk/barbarian build
"You might be able to plea with your dm that is was insanity."
my character might already be insane LOL.
"EDIT: You can always stop leveling as a monk and start on the monk/barbarian build"
I WANT MY DAMN FIREWATER BREATH.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk/archetypes/paizo---monk-a rchetypes/drunken-master
Killing someone in cold blood, at the very least you would be come NE, if not CE
A methodical, well planned murder seems fairly lawful evil to me.
A methodical, well planned murder seems fairly lawful evil to me.
But unjust killing in not lawful...
A methodical, well planned murder seems fairly lawful evil to me.But unjust killing in not lawful...
Evil implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some evil deity or master.
Lawful characters tell the truth, keep their word, respect authority, honor tradition, and judge those who fall short of their duties.
And most importantly:
A lawful evil villain methodically takes what he wants within the limits of his code of conduct without regard for whom it hurts. He cares about tradition, loyalty, and order, but not about freedom, dignity, or life.
If it falls in line with his personal code, doesn't violate an authority or laws he respects and is done in a methodical manner, I don't think it'd be a problem.
And even then, it's all about the loopholes.
My Character follows the local law for the lawful part of his alignment (He is LN). but there is no official local law, and maybe some backqround info about our campaign would help you understand what the authorities are like:
The mayor of town has an infernal contract to make his life more convenient E.G. he uses pit-fiends to flush toilets. he has killed many people and is oppressive to the citizens of town. and this is the guy who writes the laws.
Oh, and the weak, easily scared guards laughed at us because two of our party members got frightened WHEN THE F**KED-UP LOOKING FOUR-ARMED EIDILON THAT IS 18 FEET TALL WAS WITH US, as if they were more strong than that thing.
in short, there is no fair law or good law enforcement.
Reading through this thread, OP mostly just sounds immature and wants to murder another party member out of OOC reasons. An angry person, drunk or not, especially not a LN one, wouldn't murder someone else because they tick them off.
Well, with a name like that, was there ever a doubt? ;)
Reading through this thread, OP mostly just sounds immature and wants to murder another party member out of OOC reasons. An angry person, drunk or not, especially not a LN one, wouldn't murder someone else because they tick them off.
Yep.
I don't know why we got to escalate to killing in this situation. You'd think the drunk would just lose his temper and throw one-good punch, maybe for subdual damage and stunning fist, with a firm. "shut up." The witch would probably get the point or go buck wild like like snooki. At the very least, it's very likely she won't b%$@$ at him so much.
She'd just sleep hex me. i'd probably have to roll a good intimidate score (at least i have +7) against her or roll a good will save against her hex. luckily, i have the highest will save in the party.