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Forums,
My brother and I cannot seem to agree as to how the Bottled Ooze discovery works. My brother believes that the bottled ooze is created in the same way that an extract is prepared (hence the language in the last sentence of the discovery. It seems to me that the bottled ooze requires a sample of an actual ooze, however (hence the language in the first sentence of the discovery).
For clarity, the Bottled Ooze discovery is presented, below:
Bottled Ooze (Su)
Prerequisite: Alchemist 6
Benefit: The alchemist has learned how to preserve a sample of oozes in a sealed bottle, which he can prepare for use as an extract. When the alchemist activates the extract, he actually throws the bottle at a square within 30 feet, releasing the ooze, which reconstitutes and attacks the closest creature. The ooze is not under the alchemist’s control, but is otherwise treated as a summoned creature. The ooze remains for 1 round per caster level, and decays into powder when the duration expires. If the alchemist has the infusion discovery, another character can use the infused specimen. Creating a bottled ooze requires an extract with a level equal to the ooze’s CR (so a CR 4 gray ooze requires a 4th-level extract).
What do the forums think? Do you need to have a sample of the ooze you want to "bottle," or can you simply create a bottled ooze as easily as you could any other extract?
Thanks in advance,
- the Garden Tool
no you need a exract(slash spell slot) equal to the cr of the ooze
wait a sec.(oh i see what your saying).........ok i would say no because the text gave it no value nor how the alchemist would gather it. (nor did i think it was implied that the dm should make one over having a spell component pouch)
I understand that much, but in order to prepare / fill that extract slot, do you also need a sample of the ooze that you want to "preserve"?
I'm not sure about the RAW or the RAI here.
I think if you were supposed to hunt down each type of ooze and harvest it, there would be specific rules about how to do so, how much you get, how long it lasts, how many 'doses' you can make, etc.
Instead, I think it's treated just like all your other alchemical components and handwaved just like the stuff in a spell component pouch.