Agile Weapon Enchantment - Is this Legal in PFS?


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A simple question. It allows for a light weapon or weapon that can be used with weapon finesse to use the DEX modifier instead of STR modifier for bonus damage on damage rolls. I can't recall what supplement this comes from exactly, so I can't verify if this is allowed in PFS. Thanks for any help!

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Agile is in the Pathfinder Society field Guide. Everything in that book is legal.

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It is from Pathfinder Society Field Guide and it is legal. Enjoy!

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Volkspanzer wrote:
A simple question. It allows for a light weapon or weapon that can be used with weapon finesse to use the DEX modifier instead of STR modifier for bonus damage on damage rolls. I can't recall what supplement this comes from exactly, so I can't verify if this is allowed in PFS. Thanks for any help!

It's from the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, and yes, it's legal (and fairly popular among those who've noticed it).

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What pg is the information about the weapon finesse & DEX mod damage on?


I do not have the Field Guide handy, but the info for it is on d20pfsrd.com as well. You do need to have the Weapon Finesse feat for this weapon enhancement to do any good, though. Also, lucky for you, since the Field Guide is part of the Core Assumption, you are not required to bring a copy of the book to a game in order to prove it is legal to use.

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It states that the price is "+1 bonus"

So it costs 2000gp to put this on a masterwork weapon?


It is the equivalent of a +1 for cost, but the weapon still has to be at least +1 to begin with before you can add an enhancement. So you will need gold and a minimum amount of Fame before you can add Agile to a weapon, however much is needed for a +2 weapon, basically. I will look it up and edit it in if someone does not beat me to it.

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sveden wrote:

It states that the price is "+1 bonus"

So it costs 2000gp to put this on a masterwork weapon?

8000. You have to have a +1 enchantment on your weapon before you can put anything else on it. When a price says +1 bonus it means that it adds an effective +1 to calculate the total price so the cheapest you could go for would be to have a +1 agile weapon. Which would be a +2 effective weapon for cost calculation.

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sveden wrote:

It states that the price is "+1 bonus"

So it costs 2000gp to put this on a masterwork weapon?

Actually, weapons have to have at least a +1 bonus already on them before you can add special enhancements.

So you'd need to start with a +1 weapon (2,000gp + masterwork weapon), then upgrade it. This would make it a +2 equivalent weapon, which costs 8,000gp + the masterwork weapon. If you already have a +1 weapon, then you can just pay the difference (6,000gp) to upgrade from +1 to +1 Agile.


Thanks Jiggy and LazarX. :) I knew someone would remember the numbers without having to look them up first.

And with a cost of over 8000 gold, you would need at least 27 Fame before you could get a +1 Agile weapon, regardless of buying it all at once or upgrading.

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Enevhar Aldarion wrote:

Thanks Jiggy and LazarX. :) I knew someone would remember the numbers without having to look them up first.

And with a cost of over 8000 gold, you would need at least 27 Fame before you could get a +1 Agile weapon, regardless of buying it all at once or upgrading.

With one notable exception: an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists. You only need 18 fame for the 5000 GP cost. Go dex monk go! (Just watch your encumbrance.)

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Belafon wrote:
Enevhar Aldarion wrote:

Thanks Jiggy and LazarX. :) I knew someone would remember the numbers without having to look them up first.

And with a cost of over 8000 gold, you would need at least 27 Fame before you could get a +1 Agile weapon, regardless of buying it all at once or upgrading.

With one notable exception: an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists. You only need 18 fame for the 5000 GP cost. Go dex monk go! (Just watch your encumbrance.)

To be clear, this is because the Amulet doesn't require you to start with a +1, not because the PFS purchasing rules make an exception or anything.

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And, for further clarification, both Weapon Finesse *and* Agile don't stack. They each do the same thing (exchange your Str for Dex in terms of melee damage) and don't double the effect (you don't do Dex*2 damage on attacks with both). So either get the feat, or get the enchantment, but there's no need to have both.

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WalterGM wrote:
And, for further clarification, both Weapon Finesse *and* Agile don't stack. They each do the same thing (exchange your Str for Dex in terms of melee damage) and don't double the effect (you don't do Dex*2 damage on attacks with both). So either get the feat, or get the enchantment, but there's no need to have both.

Ummm...

Weapon Finesse lets you use your Dexterity bonus as a modifier on melee weapon attack rolls.

Agile lets you use your Dexterity bonus as a modifier on melee weapon damage rolls.

So, no, they don't stack...but that's because they do two different things.

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I thought weapon finesse only added the bonus from dex to hit and then agile added the dex bonus to damage?

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Derp, I meant Dervish Dance >.<

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WalterGM wrote:
Derp, I meant Dervish Dance >.<

They wouldn't work that well together, anyhow.

Dervish Dance requires a scimitar.

Scimitars are not eligible for the Agile enhancement...

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Callarek wrote:
WalterGM wrote:
Derp, I meant Dervish Dance >.<

They wouldn't work that well together, anyhow.

Dervish Dance requires a scimitar.

Scimitars are not eligible for the Agile enhancement...

WalterGM Fail again... ;)

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Basically, the Agile enchantment was created so that dex melee actually has an alternative to going Dervish.

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LazarX wrote:
Basically, the Agile enchantment was created so that dex melee actually has an alternative to going Dervish.

Pretty much, yeah. Also to give monks a less MAD option for melee damage (since an Agile AoMF is cheaper than a +1 Agile weapon).


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Dragnmoon wrote:
Callarek wrote:
WalterGM wrote:
Derp, I meant Dervish Dance >.<

They wouldn't work that well together, anyhow.

Dervish Dance requires a scimitar.

Scimitars are not eligible for the Agile enhancement...

WalterGM Fail again... ;)

Man, I am so full of fail recently. It's gotta be this inclement weather. MAKE UP YOUR MIND WASHINGTON STATE!!


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Wash. St. Always has bad weather bro.... What are you talking about?

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East side - WSU town - is rather overcast, I'll admit, but the rain usually dies off around the end of February. Then we have four months of cloud cover, followed by three weeks of sun, then back to being overcast before winter starts. Its just our Pullmanic cycle.

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