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I'm a bit confused about how natural attacks work.
Suppose I'm a Rogue 6/Alchemist (Vivisectionist) 2, and I choose Feral Mutagen as my discovery. I already have Two Weapon Fighting (with twin short swords). My BAB is +5.
How many attacks can I make in a standard action, and how many in a full attack? What about when my BAB reaches +6/+1? If I attack while flanking, these are all sneak attacks, right?
Thanks very much for the clarification.
Standard action 1 (A bite, a claw, or a short sword)
Full attack 3 (A bite and either 2 claws, 2 short swords, or 1 claw 1 sword.)
At +6/+1 your gain one extra sword attack if your primary hand is a sword attack. (So 1 bite and either 3 swords (2 primary 1 secondary), 2 swords and a claw, or two claws.)
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Standard Action Attacks since u have TWF increase... so u can attack once with each hand. so it s Sword(or claw)AND Sword(or claw)
With BaB 6 it s 2x Sword or claw AND Sword or claw BUT THIS ONLY AS FULL ATTACK
with ITWF it s 2x sword or claw AND 2x Sword or claw
But as i said to use the extra attack u must not move more than 5ft step
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Standard Action Attacks since u have TWF increase... so u can attack once with each hand. so it s Sword(or claw)AND Sword(or claw)
To make an attack with two weapons, you must make a full attack. If you doubt it, here's the quote:
If you get more than one attack per round because your base attack bonus is high enough (see Base Attack Bonus in Classes), because you fight with two weapons or a double weapon, or for some special reason, you must use a full-round action to get your additional attacks.
I've played a high level Vivisectionist before, and the best way to go is too only use your natural attacks, you get to make your full attack with the full bab, and you can use greater invisibility extracts to get 3 sneak attack that can hit easily your target. So you don't really want any rogue level when you go that way... Vivisectionist is just plain better, and you get almost the same skills anyway!
Oh yes, and the best thing is... you don't need 2 magic weapons, just get yourself an Amulet of mighty fist, those work with natural attacks too! and if you're so high level that you want to get some iterative attack, just go improved unarmed strike.
Unless you have Multiattack, in which case it's -2.
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Blackblood, are you sure you're not thinking of attacking with a natural weapon that's holding an artificial weapon? Like making a claw attack with a hand holding a sword?
Cheapy, Multiattack reduces the penalty on secondary attacks, but the bite is a primary attack.
EDIT: Ah, nevermind - looked up natural weapons in the combat section.
"Creatures with natural attacks and attacks made with weapons can use both as part of a full attack action (although often a creature must forgo one natural attack for each weapon clutched in that limb, be it a claw, tentacle, or slam). Such creatures attack with their weapons normally but treat all of their available natural attacks as secondary attacks during that attack, regardless of the attack’s original type."
Reynard, what people are saying is this: if you only full-attack with natural weapons, and no manufactured weapons, they are all considered primary attacks, and thus do not incur any penalties. If you only use two manufactured weapons to full-attack, and the off-hand weapon is a light weapon, then your both those attacks are made at a -2 penalty. If you full-attack with one manufactured weapon, and make natural attacks with the claw which is not holding a weapon and the bite, the manufactured weapon's attack is made at no penalty, and the claw and bite are both made at a -5 penalty. If you full attack with two manufactured weapons, and the off-hand weapon is a light weapon, and you also make a bite attack, then both your manufactured weapons' attacks are made at -2, and the bite is made at -5. This is because the rules of pathfinder say that natural attacks are all primary attacks, unless you also make an attack with (a) manufactured weapon(s), in which case the manufactured weapons are considered your primary attack, and the natural attack(s) are considered secondary, incurring a -5 penalty.
As an aside, you may never make an attack with a claw which is also used to hold a manufactured weapon.