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Just to verify, does it cost anything to create a cantrip scroll utilizing the formula because, they are 0 level and cantrips and the formula is 12.5 x spell level x caster level. I know that in the crafting section of the Players Handbook it says that all scrolls are created at least half of the base price. Plus can I make more than 1 scroll per day at the max of 1000gps? Please clear up both confusions.
They are 1/2 the price of level 1 spells. There is a chart that tells you the price. Look for "Scroll Base Costs (By Scriber's Class)" under the Magic Item Creation.
You can only scribe on spell per day.
Scribing a scroll requires 1 day per 1,000 gp of the base price. Although an individual scroll might contain more than one spell, each spell must be scribed as a separate effort, meaning that no more than 1 spell can be scribed in a day.
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They are 1/2 the price of level 1 spells. There is a chart that tells you the price. Look for "Scroll Base Costs (By Scriber's Class)" under the Magic Item Creation.
You can only scribe on spell per day.
Scribing a scroll requires 1 day per 1,000 gp of the base price. Although an individual scroll might contain more than one spell, each spell must be scribed as a separate effort, meaning that no more than 1 spell can be scribed in a day.
See, that is where I got confused because it says 1 day per 1000gp, thus I thought, I can scribe as many scrolls up to 1000gp per day, but that final line of "no more than 1 spell can be scribed in a day" seems to contradict that first line.
That 1 day per 1000gp is the max limit meaning that if the scroll cost more than 1000gp you can achieve 1000 gp worth of work.
Yes.
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Just found something that contradicts and adds to the gameplay. I would appreciate any feedback on this. Previously in this posting conceroo helpled me solve a dilemma that I had with the wording of the rule for crafting. Concerro was correct about the pricing of making scrolls except in one case. In the core rule book, it states in the section dealing with crafting it states that potions and scrolls follow different rules on the limitations. If the potion or scroll costs less than 250gps, than all it takes is 2 hours to create it. But if the costs is between 250gp and 1000gps, than it takes eight hours to create a potion or scribe a scroll. This means that if I go by this rule, than I should make at least four 0-level scrolls or four level 1 scrolls in one day correct?
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Now another question I would like some feedback. Going by the equation to create a magical scroll, a level 5 wizard creating scroll of detect magic is going to pay 5 times the amount compared to a level 1 wizard creating the same item. Correct? Just to clarify here is the equation: 12.5 x spell level x caster level.
Except that the 5th level caster does not have to scribe the scroll at as a 5th level caster.
He can scribe at a lower level caster level, say 1st, and pay the first level price.
This is one reason why scrolls found are always at the lowest caster level possible.
And is why the archetype that has a class ability that says you cast any scoll at your caster level and stat bonus (same as you would if you used a staff) is cool.
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Just found something that contradicts and adds to the gameplay. I would appreciate any feedback on this. Previously in this posting conceroo helpled me solve a dilemma that I had with the wording of the rule for crafting. Concerro was correct about the pricing of making scrolls except in one case. In the core rule book, it states in the section dealing with crafting it states that potions and scrolls follow different rules on the limitations. If the potion or scroll costs less than 250gps, than all it takes is 2 hours to create it. But if the costs is between 250gp and 1000gps, than it takes eight hours to create a potion or scribe a scroll. This means that if I go by this rule, than I should make at least four 0-level scrolls or four level 1 scrolls in one day correct?Nope because you are limited to 1 / day. Don't try and look for contradictions when there aren't any.
i'm not lookimg for contradictions to be antigonistic. I found this in the core rule book on pg 549 paragraph 5 line 4. It does state that I can scribe a scroll in 2 hours if its less than 250 gps as well as brew potion for that same price limitation. I'm looking for ways to expand the game, clear up any confusions and enjoy this awesome game.
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Just found something that contradicts and adds to the gameplay. I would appreciate any feedback on this. Previously in this posting conceroo helpled me solve a dilemma that I had with the wording of the rule for crafting. Concerro was correct about the pricing of making scrolls except in one case. In the core rule book, it states in the section dealing with crafting it states that potions and scrolls follow different rules on the limitations. If the potion or scroll costs less than 250gps, than all it takes is 2 hours to create it. But if the costs is between 250gp and 1000gps, than it takes eight hours to create a potion or scribe a scroll. This means that if I go by this rule, than I should make at least four 0-level scrolls or four level 1 scrolls in one day correct?No. you're still limited to one per day. If you decide that the days work is going be making a scroll of a cantrip, then you might as well as plan on fishing the rest of the day as you're done.
But why when I have still 6 hours left to scribe. Also the rules state that it is 1000gps per day of work, not 250 gps per day of work.
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Except that the 5th level caster does not have to scribe the scroll at as a 5th level caster.
He can scribe at a lower level caster level, say 1st, and pay the first level price.This is one reason why scrolls found are always at the lowest caster level possible.
And is why the archetype that has a class ability that says you cast any scoll at your caster level and stat bonus (same as you would if you used a staff) is cool.
Thanks for the extra info regarding the scribing a scroll at a lower caster level. :)
But why when I have still 6 hours left to scribe. Also the rules state that it is 1000gps per day of work, not 250 gps per day of work.
You can create a scroll with multiple spells but you can only create a single magic item per day.
Although an individual scroll might contain more than one spell, each spell must be scribed as a separate effort, meaning that no more than 1 spell can be scribed in a day.
Though...
they can take as little as 2 hours to create (if their base price is 250 gp or less)
And given...
The caster can work for up to 8 hours each day.
You can either create a single scroll with up to 4 spells on it if each costs 250 gp or less. But you can't make multiple scrolls because...
Regardless of the time needed for construction, a caster can create no more than one magic item per day.
I suggest you read the Magic Item Creation chapter in the PRD.
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/magicItems/magicItemCreation.html
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But why when I have still 6 hours left to scribe. Also the rules state that it is 1000gps per day of work, not 250 gps per day of work.Just found something that contradicts and adds to the gameplay. I would appreciate any feedback on this. Previously in this posting conceroo helpled me solve a dilemma that I had with the wording of the rule for crafting. Concerro was correct about the pricing of making scrolls except in one case. In the core rule book, it states in the section dealing with crafting it states that potions and scrolls follow different rules on the limitations. If the potion or scroll costs less than 250gps, than all it takes is 2 hours to create it. But if the costs is between 250gp and 1000gps, than it takes eight hours to create a potion or scribe a scroll. This means that if I go by this rule, than I should make at least four 0-level scrolls or four level 1 scrolls in one day correct?No. you're still limited to one per day. If you decide that the days work is going be making a scroll of a cantrip, then you might as well as plan on fishing the rest of the day as you're done.Because the rules say that it's one per day.
It's kind of like the example below from Order of the Stick.
"Master I got a bargain on those rubies you asked for they only cost 400 gold pieces."
"Good job apprentice but the spell calls for 500 gold pieces worth. Go buy some more."
Thank you as well for clearing the confusion up. Thank you as well because you are awesome. :)