Smelling salts (25 gp) from the Advanced Player's Guide equipment section allow you a new saving throw. They're a must-have for my characters!
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Smack em' around a bit? I'd definitely allow a new save for that. Maybe make it a standard action. Using Heal while waking them should give a bonus on the new save. Maybe a DC 15 Heal check or something [same DC as treating caltrops, I believe].
Dispel should have no effect, since they are not magically unconscious. It's not a Sleep Effect, so any bonuses on sleep-related saves shouldn't apply, either.
The problem with the "smack them around" approach is that you then have to apply the same thing to getting attacked - if being slapped can wake you, being cut open certainly should. That then makes the spell less useful, because your victims will wake up as soon as you attack them.
The problem with the "smack them around" approach is that you then have to apply the same thing to getting attacked - if being slapped can wake you, being cut open certainly should. That then makes the spell less useful, because your victims will wake up as soon as you attack them.
Agreed. And while they're still blinded and stunned, it's still easier to hit a helpless defender rather than one that is stunned. (Dex 0 and +4 to hit vs denied dex and -2 AC)
Even without coup de grace, which I think should be reserved for an out of combat mercy stroke.
I don't get what you mean. You're saying it weakens the spell to mean "smacked around" breaks unconsciousness?
Correct. The spell says you're unconscious, blinded, and stunned for 2d4 rounds, then blinded and stunned for 1d4 rounds, and then stunned for 1 round.
By removing the unconscious condition after taking damage or aid, it weakens the spell, because it's easier to harm an unconscious target than one that is only stunned.
What if you're a gnome heavens oracle (w/awesome display) and low STR?
Then you're probably better off having one of your minions/party members do it.
I guess my question is, is unconsciousness really meant to be so hard to remove? I didn't know about smelling salts, but it seems that apart from that, there's no RAW way to fix unconsciousness. Maybe this is just an oversight, since unconsciousness is usually the result of damage and not a spell effect. Or am I wrong?
It depends on why they are unconscious. If it's a sleep spell you can wake them with a standard action or any damage taken. If they're sleeping naturally, same thing, or they can awaken normally to a loud noise if they make a perception check. If they're dying, they need to he healed to regain consciousness.
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"I guess my question is, is unconsciousness really meant to be so hard to remove?"
If your PC drops down in agony of pain, wounds, blood loss, then yes, it should be. Even doctors cant often awake pacients during those comatose states without drugs.
Maybe slightly out of topic, Chirurgeon's kit from Pathfinder Field Guide is worthy investment for helping PCs in any death situations.
* Since the "unconscious" condition only applies to 2HD or less when hit by Color Spray, I would like to slightly rephrase what someone else said:
"If you have to attack an unconscious victim with 2HD more than once, you're doing it wrong."
Awesome display treats the HD limit as Cha-Mod lower. So your oracle with 18 Cha can knock out a 6 HD creature (if it fails the save).