Double attack feat with single attack Polearms.

[Gurby]

I'm in a PBP game and one of our players has left his character in my hands of a short bit(medical issues). but he has what feats do. not what they are. and we seem to have a number of questionable bonuses to his character.

My prime issue is the secondary attacks (1d10(plus str) spear blade/1d4 spear but/shaft).

( Fighter Bonus )
1, TWP-Double attack (Two Weapon Fighting?)

2, +1 to attack/damage-Long spear (Weapon Focus?)

3, +3 CMD - sunder and disarm (weapon master archetype)

4, +3 Attack/dam. (weapon master archetype)

5, Double, +1 to 2nd attack,1d8 S/P & Shaft/But 1d4 B (????)

6, re-roll attack,confirm,miss (1/Day) (weapon master archetype)

7, 1d10 leader strike/1st spear attack Only (????)

8, Demoralize 30', Intimidation check (Dazzling display)

( Fighter Feats )
1, +7 CMD (Defensive Combat Training)

2, Power attack (power attack)

3, +4 damage -long spear (weapon specialization?? x2??)

4, +2 ac shield/-1 attack (?????)

5, 13 HP (toughness?)

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I could throw up his stats but they're as messed up as the rest of his character,he's a level 7 (under class he has Spartan, maybe 3rd party). according to DM, he's a fighter archetype(Two weapon fighter or a 2 Handed Fighter,I think he's a Weapon Master).

Any help would be appreciated?

Thanks,Gurby

[Archaeik]

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fig hter-archetypes/dragoon

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Spinning Lance (Ex)

At 7th level, a dragoon may alternate attacks with the piercing head of his lance with reach, or with the butt end (treat as a club) against adjacent targets. Unlike a double weapon, the masterwork quality and magical special abilities apply to both ends of the lance, except for those weapon special abilities that apply only to edged weapons.

This ability replaces armor training 2.

If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably cherry picking the best abilities from multiple archetypes at every level.

The organization is really bad, but it's semi intelligible and mostly miscalculated.
As far as I can tell, there isn't a conversion for spartan
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Spartan
but I did find a thread associating it with the above archetype.

I'm almost positive the spinning lance is the TWF he's doing, but Weapon Master is also in there, which has doubled up(or more) on a lot of the bonuses.

Let's see, I'm gonna take these slightly out of order, I hope it's not too confusing.

Quote:

Fighter Bonus

2. I also assume this is weapon focus

8. because you need it for dazzling display

3. matches weapon master Weapon Guard, but it should only be +2
4. same, weapon training should only be +2
6. matches weapon master Reliable Strike

5. I assume this is spinning lance (note the level restriction though)
1. so this is probably TWF(or some specialized version)

7. totally at a loss unless he thought Two Weapon Rend could apply and ignored the prereqs(bab 11, ITWF)
The fact that it's named leader strike makes me think it's something totally different.

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Fighter Feats

1. most likely DCT, but DCT doesn't work like that, Fighters already have full BAB, it doesn't add your HD again.

3. looks similar to the Dragoon Spear Training, but it probably is Weapon Spec miscalculated.

4. um.... vaguely resembles Deft Shield from Phalanx Soldier
other options- some weird interpretation of Two Weapon Defense or Shield of Swings
I suspect it's probably something totally different(3PP)

5. depending on skills, this could be a combination of Toughness and favored class bonuses
It's 7+5, so unless the 5 can be accounted for some other way...

Looks like he did (fighter means there was no class feature available to swap)
1 fighter
2 WM
3 WM
4 fighter
5 WM
6 fighter
7 dragoon

So, realistically he's a WM, but kind of sounds like he meant to play a dragoon...

[Gurby]

Your Good, Great!! Archaeik

We're rebuilding the character from a 3rd lvl sheet. and the fact he currently only has 17 skill points, makes it easier.

Thanks for all the help!!! You rock dude!

[wraithstrike]

I would also make it a rule that everyone right down the correct name of the abilities.

[Mergy]

I would be very interested in seeing his character sheet posted.

[Gurby]

Mergy wrote:

I would be very interested in seeing his character sheet posted.

See that's part of the issue.He's used a personal sheet(spread sheet program) that doesn't transfer over to open office,excel or word. one of the other players said he uses Linux Gnome extensions.

The game master wasn't even sure how to read it.

[blackbloodtroll]

That is a poor idea. I had a player who used kanji dice. No one could read them, so he simply stated what he rolled. I would not accuse anyone of cheating so lightly, but legible dice and character sheets are a must. A symbol of trust amongst players and DMs. This should never be questioned, or compromised. I would simply recreate a character on a legible sheet. Whether this is done by your player, or by you,, is up to you.

[Sean Mahoney]

Gurby wrote:

See that's part of the issue.He's used a personal sheet(spread sheet program) that doesn't transfer over to open office,excel or word. one of the other players said he uses Linux Gnome extensions.

The game master wasn't even sure how to read it.

I don't know of any spreadsheet programs that are not able to do an export to a CSV (comma seperated values) format (assuming he is using a flat spreadsheet). If that is the case it would then be easily importable into Excel or OpenOffice Calc.

Sean

[Mergy]

Print it out and scan it in! Or tell him to transfer it to a readable format.

[Gurby]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

That is a poor idea. I had a player who used kanji dice. No one could read them, so he simply stated what he rolled. I would not accuse anyone of cheating so lightly, but legible dice and character sheets are a must. A symbol of trust amongst players and DMs. This should never be questioned, or compromised. I would simply recreate a character on a legible sheet. Whether this is done by your player, or by you,, is up to you.

Yeah,we rebuilt him as a weapon master and it's a go now.

According to the GM used an archtype, traits and feats from an obsidian portal homebrew and some odd mis-understanding over changing classes.
How our micromanaging GM dropped the ball on this.I have no clue. When a number of players suspected an issues.
his stats were were a mis-communication over stat damage/healing from a number of things.

[Gurby]

Sean Mahoney wrote:

Gurby wrote:

See that's part of the issue.He's used a personal sheet(spread sheet program) that doesn't transfer over to open office,excel or word. one of the other players said he uses Linux Gnome extensions.

The game master wasn't even sure how to read it.

I don't know of any spreadsheet programs that are not able to do an export to a CSV (comma seperated values) format (assuming he is using a flat spreadsheet). If that is the case it would then be easily importable into Excel or OpenOffice Calc.

Sean

Well it didn't work. I have very limited experience with Linux(almost none),let alone the programs for it.

[Gurby]

Mergy wrote:

Print it out and scan it in! Or tell him to transfer it to a readable format.

I don't have access to him,only his sheet program. it prints out to 8 double sided pages of raw spreadsheet data.

[Gurby]

Gurby wrote:

Mergy wrote:

Print it out and scan it in! Or tell him to transfer it to a readable format.

I don't have access to him,only his sheet program. it prints out to 8 double sided pages of raw spreadsheet data.

Finally talked to James(Character in questions Player). We went over printing the character. Character sheet still isn't working and believe the file is Broken(damaged).