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Laughter at the expense of another's pain...unless it's on video and put on the internet. That stuff is hilarious.
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Humor is allowed to go as far as a particular audience will allow. It can of course go further, but tomatoes hurled at one's face really start to ache after the first 20.
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You have to think of it in terms of the 3.x fighter vs. the 3.x wizard. The linear fighter is the escalation into increasing socially unacceptable topics, and the quadratic wizard is the punchline. As long as the punchline (wizard) remains quadratically more funny than the setup (fighter), you haven't crossed the line.
This grand unified humor theorem also accidentally explains why 4e is completely filled with you're-having-fun-wrongness. Don't even get me started on OSR humor.
Humor goes too far when Carlos Mencia opens his mouth :}
[Borg Voice]We are the Borg. Humor is irrelevant. All will be assimilated![/Borg Voice]
Humor goes too far when you don't give the 'target' a chance to fire back.
I want to make a joke about ladies and kitchens, fine, but I had better be quick with the guys and sheds counter-joke.
No limits whatsoever. Everyone needs to learn to be able to laugh at anything. Racist jokes, toilet humor, dead baby jokes. It's all good. If it makes you laugh, it was funny. Humor relies on surprise. Nothing is more surprising and shocking that politically incorrect s$**.
I have a favorite joke, and it might get me downright BANNED from these boards for sharing.
No limits whatsoever. Everyone needs to learn to be able to laugh at anything. Racist jokes, toilet humor, dead baby jokes. It's all good. If it makes you laugh, it was funny. Humor relies on surprise. Nothing is more surprising and shocking that politically incorrect s%!%.
I have a favorite joke, and it might get me downright BANNED from these boards for sharing.
As a counterpoint, I'd add that just because people don't find your jokes funny doesn't necessarily mean the problem is with the audience. In theory, you could tell Holocaust jokes at an Auschwitz survivors reunion, but you better have some freaking genius material.
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What if attempted humour doesn't make you laugh? Do failed offensive jokes qualify as hate speech? (Should hate speech be criminal?)
What's up with this?
I'm not touching whether hate speech should be criminal or not (that debate was not fun last time I had it), but depending on the joke, I'd say it can qualify as hate speech.
What if attempted humour doesn't make you laugh? Do failed offensive jokes qualify as hate speech? (Should hate speech be criminal?)
What's up with this?
There's plenty of things that don't make me laugh. Adam Sandler, for instance. But I don't think his movies qualify as hate speech.
Also, no, hate speech shouldn't be a crime. Not in and of itself anyway.
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Also, no, hate speech shouldn't be a crime. Not in and of itself anyway.
Really? So hate speech by itself is completely harmless?
Apparently, someone thinks they're a protected class from hate speech?
Tsk.
No, its not harmless. But there are lots of harmful things that are and SHOULD remain legal. Freedom is a dangerous thing.
As soon as just one protected class was created under the law, we crossed into declaring some types of speech too harmful to allow unfettered. Certain forms of speech are harmful. What's left is determining where the limits lie.
I re-read what I just said and it could possibly be misconstrued. I was implying whether someone believes they should be protected from the ramifications of saying something considered as hateful and avoid the fallout that comes from it.
Reap what you sow.
Hey, the thread name lied. This stuff ain't funny at all. :P
That we are having this conversation today... ironic? Or "wwebsite as on the internet"?
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Dear Alanis,
I am a big fan.
To be fair, I asked all this stuff a day BEFORE Martin Luther Kind Gay. You're right, though. It is appropriately ironic.
Now for your "wwebsite as on the internet" gag. I had to call this out because of the extreme irony. I don't read this "PAX" comic, but a comic that is about peace must be pretty cool. And ironic.
Basically in awe of your irony,
peace out for the mad ironies yo,
me
- Mum
...and then we let slip the Optics of War?
Reggie
- Mum...and then we let slip the Optics of War?
Reggie
No. At that point it's just fun :)