Versatile Channeler

[ElyasRavenwood]

Can an Oracle with the Life Mystery who has chosen the Channel Energy revelation take the Versatile Channeler feat?

How can a necromancer take the Versatile energy feat?

Thanks

[Malag]

It says in Note

"Note: This feat only applies to necromancers, neutral clerics who worship neutral deities, or neutral clerics who do not worship a deity -- characters who have the channel energy class ability and have to make a choice to channel positive or negative energy at 1st level. Clerics whose alignment or deity makes this choice for them cannot select this feat."

So answer is no, it cant.

[Gjorbjond]

An Oracle can't simply because that feat specifically says "necromancer or neutral cleric". Also, there's the note that it can only be taken by a class that has a choice between channeling positive or negative energy. An Oracle of Life doesn't have a choice.

A necromancer can take the feat, but the feat doesn't do anything by itself. It merely lets you qualify for whichever bonus necromancer feat you didn't take at first level.

[wraithstrike]

I don't think so. You don't have a choice as to which energy type you channel with a Life Oracle.

A necromancer wizard uses negative energy to power the Command Undead feat, and positive energy for the Turn Undead feat.

[ElyasRavenwood]

Thank you for your answers Malag, Gjorbjond, and wraithstrike.

Ah yes it is in the "fine print" or the last paragraph we see the details.

Thanks again.

[Merck]

While no, you cant get the feat with an oracle, I dont consider it particularly game breaking and would allow it if one of my players asked me.

Talk to your DM about it.

[Drimoran]

Versatile Channeler wrote:

Prerequisites: Channel energy class feature, necromancer or neutrally aligned cleric (see below).

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Note: This feat only applies to necromancers, neutral clerics who worship neutral deities, or neutral clerics who do not worship a deity -- characters who have the channel energy class ability and have to make a choice to channel positive or negative energy at 1st level. Clerics whose alignment or deity makes this choice for them cannot select this feat.

It is really clear to me that this note is intended for neutrally aligned clerics. Meaning that not every one neutral aligned cleric can qualify for this feat. In fact it says: (see bold)

RAW:
1.-Be and oracle (life): You have channel energy class feature

2.-Get 1 level on wizard class (Necromancy), VMC Wizard (Necromancy), 1 level on arcanist with school savant archeotype (Necromancy) or 1 level on arcanist with Arcane exploit: School understanding (Necromacy)

3.-You have qualified

[Shiniryuu]

What I would like to know is if warpriests and hex channeler witches qualify for the versatile channeler feat, and before someone tries to direct me to the prerequisites, the warpriest and hex channeler witch are post-UM, specifically Advanced Class Guide.

[Derek Dalton]

Our group has allowed a House Rule that a Life Oracle can take Versatile Channel. The Oracle normally doesn't get channel energy something I think editing took into account when they came up with the feat. Three mysteries allow channel two with restrictions. Life Oracle has the revelation channel which says. "You can channel positive energy like a cleric using your oracle level as your effective cleric level." The only difference between a cleric and an oracles is Oracles use channel 1+Chr per day. Nothing in the description says you couldn't modify or change the channel. So if you are a neutral aligned Oracle you could qualify for the feat.

[Shiniryuu]

Derek Dalton wrote:

Our group has allowed a House Rule that a Life Oracle can take Versatile Channel. The Oracle normally doesn't get channel energy something I think editing took into account when they came up with the feat. Three mysteries allow channel two with restrictions. Life Oracle has the revelation channel which says. "You can channel positive energy like a cleric using your oracle level as your effective cleric level." The only difference between a cleric and an oracles is Oracles use channel 1+Chr per day. Nothing in the description says you couldn't modify or change the channel. So if you are a neutral aligned Oracle you could qualify for the feat.

House rules are one thing, but the reason the oracle doesn't qualify for the Versatile Channeler feat is because each revelation that grants channel energy already makes that decision for them. The note for the Versatile Channeler feat states that the character had be able to make the choice himself on whether they channel positive or negative energy. My question is based on the fact that the warpriest's channel energy works just like a cleric, as far as if and how the decision is made for you, while the hex channeler replaces her 2nd level hex for channel energy (though from then on can take a hex or increase channel energy by 1d6). In both cases, members of the class/archetype that are neither good nor evil (and in the case of the warpriest, their god as well) meet the requirement of having had to have made a choice on their own on whether to channel positive or negative energy, but the Versatile Channeler feat was released in UM, published in 2011, while the ACG was pulished in 2014.