Two Handed Weapons and Casting.


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Hi, I was wondering if a fighter who got a two-handed weapon, say a greatsword, and then took a level in mage, could he cast a spell with a somatic component by letting go of the sword with one hand while holding the greatsword in only one hand (let's say the spell is shield), and then re-equipping it with two hands once the spell is finished cast?

Thanks!


I believe so. Just to be safe, take Quick Draw.


Thanks for the quick reply. I wouldn't begin with it sheathed though; what would quick draw change?

Thanks again.


You might lose AoO for that round as your sword is unwieldable for that round, but there isn't a hard rule forthat so ask the DM or house rule it if it feels needed. Or declare the sword your arcane focus, then you cann;t cast without it being out. Dazzling display and a fire ball.


Greetings, fellow travellers.

Letting go with one hand and regripping a 2handed weapon are both free actions, so it works fine.

Ruyan.


RuyanVe wrote:

Greetings, fellow travellers.

Letting go with one hand and regripping a 2handed weapon are both free actions, so it works fine.

Ruyan.

Thanks--in that case could I make AOOs during the round?


I would strongly recommend - if you're going to do this - going Sorcerer and getting Still Spell.

I've got a fairly nice Fighter/Sorcerer/Eldritch Knight build for PFS.


I guess my question is; do I even need still spell if I've got a 2handed weapon? Would free action hold, free action use two handed essentially allow me to do the same thing? Or is that not doable/do I lose my aoo's?


Dane Leach wrote:
I guess my question is; do I even need still spell if I've got a 2handed weapon? Would free action hold, free action use two handed essentially allow me to do the same thing? Or is that not doable/do I lose my aoo's?

I'd never let you cast a spell and make AoOs with a two hander in the same round. If hurts balance and the spirit of the game.


Ask your DM. There is no written rule for casting and a two handed weapon. The loss of a AoO was suggested as a compromise if your DM was againist the idea. And the stillspell suggest was added to make the Eldrich Knight sorcerer combo work better.


I think our approach is OK with RAW. We've always allowed casters with a staff or spear or whatnot to cast and threaten freely. It has worked fine in our games, but we tend to fall back on the principle of maximum freedom for players. If players want to do something cool and the rules are fuzzy on it I always default to letting the players have fun and try stuff. Sometimes this lets the players "get by" with something, but all of the folks playing in my groups are very easy to get along with, and they don't abuse the principal.


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I'm surprised that so many people feel so guilty about doing this that they have to have self-imposed penalties or needless resource investments in order to feel better about doing it.

The rules allow for it. The game developers have endorsed it. Don't punish yourself. Just have fun.


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The way I view it, a wizard traditionally has a staff right? 2hander right there. If RAW allows it; I don't see any problem with it.


I'm pretty sure swapping things around in your hands or swapping your grip back and forth are free actions. Which would suggest, per RAW, releasing one hand (free action), casting (standard, or whatever), and regripping (free action) should all be fine and should not prevent you from threatening/taking an AoO.


Thanks to everyone who helped sort this out! My Fighter-Wizard with an elven curve blade appreciates it!


if you're wielding a 2H weapon, you can let go of the weapon with one of your hands (free action). You're now only carrying the 2H weapon, not wielding it, but your free hand is now free to attack or help cast spells or whatever. And at the end of your turn if your free hand remains free you'd be able to return it to grip your 2H weapon so you can still threaten foes and take attacks of opportunity if you want.

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