
Idward Evanhand |

I have a player who wants to ware Silken ceremonial armor, but also cast mage armor. I just want to know the rules on this.
The armor's bonus is +1, if you cast mage armor your armor bonus is +4, not +5. However if you have +1 shadow armor, your AC bonus should still be +4 (I don't think you get the +1 enhancment) and the slick quality.
Am I right, does the mage armor armor NOT get the enhancement bonus of the Silken ceremonial armor, but the ability of the armor (the slick quality) still gives the player a +5 bonus to stealth.

Jeraa |
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IF you had a +1 slick armor, and cast mage armor, you use the mage armors armor bonus if it is greater then the +1 slick armors. You still get the slick property as well. ITs just the armor bonuses that do not stack.
However, if you had +1 slick armor, and used bracers of armor +4, you get the bracers armor as it is higher. However, you will not get the slick property as long as the bracers AC bonus is greater then the armor bonus from the +1 slick armor. Bracers of Armor no longer work with regular armor. You only get one or the other.

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My understanding is that the armor bonuses do not stack, but that wouldn't negate any other abilities that I am aware of. So, I do believe he would still gain the slick ability, but I could be wrong on that.
It's your call as a GM. If you feel that mage armor should be subject to the rules applied to bracers of armor, which I feel is a valid, if not necessarily mandatory call, than the silk armor's only virtue is how fashionable it looks.

Frankthedm |

The extra Limitation on BoA is there to roadblock someone from piling up extra armor abilities via overlapping. IMHO Paizo would have also made the same notation in mage armor had they meant the spell to have the same anti powergaming feature.
Bracers of armor and ordinary armor do not stack. If a creature receives a larger armor bonus from another source, the bracers of armor cease functioning and do not grant their armor bonus or their armor special abilities. If the bracers of armor grant a larger armor bonus, the other source of armor ceases functioning.

Keovar |

JasonKain wrote:My understanding is that the armor bonuses do not stack, but that wouldn't negate any other abilities that I am aware of. So, I do believe he would still gain the slick ability, but I could be wrong on that.It's your call as a GM. If you feel that mage armor should be subject to the rules applied to bracers of armor, which I feel is a valid, if not necessarily mandatory call, than the silk armor's only virtue is how fashionable it looks.
Mage Armor has a limited duration and requires spellcasting ability or a decent UMD, while the bracers are constant and only require arms to use, so that's likely why the bracers have the downside of turning other magical armor properties off.

Keovar |

You also can't put special properties on Mage Armor, so there's no shenanigans with wearing two items that grant armor properties.
Yeah, the same issue that got the kilts in trouble.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og-002wn1CA
(Ignore the poor visuals and focus on the audio. This is the same comedy troupe that did "Dungeons & Dragons, Satan's Game"... which was also turned into a video with 'meh' visuals.)