Spontaneous casting interaction with Spell Strike / Combat


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How does spontaneous casting interact with the magus' spell strike and spell combat class abilities, particularly in regards to increased casting times?

If I had the Greater Spell Specialization feat, would I be able to use a spontaneously cast intensified shocking grasp with my spell strike and spell combat class abilities? If not, why?


See no reason why not.


Ravingdork wrote:

How does spontaneous casting interact with the magus' spell strike and spell combat class abilities, particularly in regards to increased casting times?

If I had the Greater Spell Specialization feat, would I be able to use a spontaneously cast intensified shocking grasp with my spell strike and spell combat class abilities? If not, why?

Spell Combat wrote:
As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a –2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this penalty).

Standard Action spells only


Gwyrdallan wrote:


Spell Combat wrote:
As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a –2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this penalty).
Standard Action spells only

Correct. Spellstrike is fine, Spell Combat is not.


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So if I intend to use metamagic, Preferred Spell is the way to go?

Grand Lodge

Ravingdork wrote:
So if I intend to use metamagic, Preferred Spell is the way to go?

Only if you plan on turning yourself into a one spell pony.

Liberty's Edge

If you're a spontaneous casting magus? Yup.

Grand Lodge

Ravingdork wrote:

How does spontaneous casting interact with the magus' spell strike and spell combat class abilities, particularly in regards to increased casting times?

If I had the Greater Spell Specialization feat, would I be able to use a spontaneously cast intensified shocking grasp with my spell strike and spell combat class abilities? If not, why?

It doesn't. Magi do not have spontaneous casting abilities. Spell Combat is exclusive to Magi. If you are multi-classed, you can not use spell combat with spells from your non-Magus class.


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LazarX wrote:
Magi do not have spontaneous casting abilities. Spell Combat is exclusive to Magi. If you are multi-classed, you can not use spell combat with spells from your non-Magus class.

I already know that LazarX. Naturally, the assumption is that my magus (A) is multi-classed and has the broad study class ability, (B) possesses the Greater Spell Specialization feat, or (C) possesses the Preferred Spell feat.

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