I need a samurai without a mount.


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Does anyone know where to find one? The mount just won't fit what I'm doing.


One easy option would be to build the Samurai with a non-mount animal companion. I'd use an Akita myself. I'd also replace Mounted Archery at 4th level with Point Blank Shot.

Sovereign Court

Just use the class as normal and don't have a mount then. The mount part of the samurai archetype is an incredible small part of their class abilities overall. Just you get a mount and you get a mounted archery ability, that's it. It isn't even close to the primary focus of the class.


Morgen wrote:
Just use the class as normal and don't have a mount then. The mount part of the samurai archetype is an incredible small part of their class abilities overall. Just you get a mount and you get a mounted archery ability, that's it. It isn't even close to the primary focus of the class.

The issue is that mounted characters don't fit the campaign I'm preparing, but samurai do, and I don't want to hand out useless class abilities.


I made a mount-less samurai for the Secrets of Tactical Archetypes. Basic idea behind him was ensuring that his allies wouldn't go down, by being able to spend resolve points to affect his allies with most resolve abilities. Also had a nifty way to get resolve points back, and was focused on Constitution. Check out the product discussion page for talk about the Mechanist, which will probably fit your steampunk world.

Spoiler:
I will never get used to recommending my products.

Silver Crusade

Cheapy wrote:
I will never get used to recommending my products.

You should always be your first fan.

Coming from a guy lying next to a box of artificial joy pills.


Maxximilius wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
I will never get used to recommending my products.

You should always be your first fan.

Coming from a guy lying next to a box of artificial joy pills.

You keep a box next to your jar?


Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:
Does anyone know where to find one? The mount just won't fit what I'm doing.

I imagine you could have something like what the ranger is getting instead of their animal companion, perhaps a feature buffing your warband. Personally, I'd probably go with a fighter variant instead - iirc the PFCS one gave the 1st level feat for 4+int SP/level, which is a pretty decent trade for a warrior who wants to do more than just fight. The tactician from Ultimate Combat sounds good too.


LoreKeeper wrote:
Maxximilius wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
I will never get used to recommending my products.

You should always be your first fan.

Coming from a guy lying next to a box of artificial joy pills.
You keep a box next to your jar?

With good enough pills, the box looks like this.

Silver Crusade

To miss OP : there is also this, but I think it's pretty clear you've already saw it since you asked me about it.

Also, yep, box + jar. But I don't melt when I open it.
Don't ask how I'm opening it.

Grand Lodge

go outside the box and let them use cavilier archetypes.

One of them delays Mount until 5th and gives banner at 1st.

Grand Lodge

another I have heard of is replacing mount with an empower blade thing similar to the Paladin. To make to this work I suggest the mount thing not happen until 5th level - so the Banner using archetype works.

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Create a Fighter, use appropriate feats... boom! A Samurai with no mount.


Would the samurai qualify for the Musketeer archetype? I don't recall the specifics off-hand, but it basically amounts to "loose your horse - get a gun."

Grand Lodge

martinaj wrote:
Would the samurai qualify for the Musketeer archetype? I don't recall the specifics off-hand, but it basically amounts to "loose your horse - get a gun."

Normally Samurai cant take Cav archetypes BUT with a simple houserule they can and yes, I forgot to post that one... and its actually thematically sound too.


Cheapy wrote:

I made a mount-less samurai for the Secrets of Tactical Archetypes. Basic idea behind him was ensuring that his allies wouldn't go down, by being able to spend resolve points to affect his allies with most resolve abilities. Also had a nifty way to get resolve points back, and was focused on Constitution. Check out the product discussion page for talk about the Mechanist, which will probably fit your steampunk world.

** spoiler omitted **

I might give this one a look :)


martinaj wrote:
Would the samurai qualify for the Musketeer archetype? I don't recall the specifics off-hand, but it basically amounts to "loose your horse - get a gun."

Both Musketeer and Samurai change weapon proficiencies, so I doubt it.

Silver Crusade

As Lazer X said, you can use a fighter.

The Samurai is just flavoring. It is an Alternate Class of the Cavalier. I don't think the Samurai or the ninja class was necessary.....you could have easily done them with the already existing classes of cavalier, or fighter, or barbarian, or for rogue for ninja. But i think enough fans and paizo customers wanted a samurai and a ninja.

All you need to do is change the flavoring and you have a Samurai. a fighter would make a good samurai.

If you are worried about the skill selection of a class, you can use the "trait" system to adjust and add class skills to a character.

I had a samurai once......He came from a strange land, ate his food with funny wooden sticks, couldn't read common, and when he went into battle he let out a tremendous shout and grew much stronger and tougher as he harnessed his Ki "rage". in the eyes of the locals, he was a barbarian.

Its all in the flavoring.

I hope this helps


Maybe, just maybe, she likes the idea of resolve or any other samurai unique features.

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