Non cleric with a non magical holy symbol... any special use?


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I am just wondering if a non magical holy symbol has any use for a non cleric.

Is there any reason for a character to have or use it other than role play?

Sovereign Court

blue_the_wolf wrote:

I am just wondering if a non magical holy symbol has any use for a non cleric.

Is there any reason for a character to have or use it other than role play?

Rules-wise, the only value to a non-cleric is the intrisic monetary value.

Roleplaying-wise, another idea to to treat a pious non-cleric's holy symbol as Jewelry, described to be in the form of the appropriate symbol/motif.


deusvult wrote:

Rules-wise, the only value to a non-cleric is the intrisic monetary value.

Roleplaying-wise, another idea to to treat a pious non-cleric's holy symbol as Jewelry, described to be in the form of the appropriate symbol/motif.

It can keep a vampire at bay. Make it an arcane bond


It might affect the attitudes/Diplomacy DCs of NPCs aligned with/opposed to that faith, or you could use it as part of a Disguise check.

Silver Crusade

Aren't all holy symbols non-magical? I thought the magic invoked when they're used for spellcasting and stuff comes entirely from the deity, and the holy symbol is just that - a symbol of the link between the spellcaster and their god(dess).

Unless there are magic items built in the form of holy symbols that I don't know about. I'm new enough to the game that such a thing wouldn't surprise me.


blue_the_wolf wrote:

I am just wondering if a non magical holy symbol has any use for a non cleric.

Is there any reason for a character to have or use it other than role play?

It can affect certain monsters, also.

Irreligious (Ex):
Bitter and blasphemous, redcaps cannot stand the symbols of good-aligned religions. If a foe spends a standard action presenting such a holy symbol, any redcap that can see the creature must make a DC 15 Will save or become frightened for 1 minute and attempt to flee. A redcap who successfully saves is shaken for 1 minute.


You can lend it to a cleric of the same faith who gets his or her holy symbols sundered and doesn't carry multiple holy symbols as standard practice.

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Depending on the shape, some make good bottle-openers, or impromptu digging tools.


Remember Bennie from The Mummy? When he pulled a holy symbol and tried a 'sacred verse' to ward off Imhotep? And when that didn't work, he pulled about twenty different holy symbols of different religions and just started going down the list? Just about as useful, but it is good depth to a character from an RP perspective.

Master Arminas

Silver Crusade

Set wrote:

Depending on the shape, some make good bottle-openers, or impromptu digging tools.

Naturally, I thought of Cayden Cailean when I read the part about bottle openers. But his holy symbol really is a mug, so it's already plenty useful, especially if you visit one of his shrines, which are mostly inside pubs and taverns.


blue_the_wolf wrote:

I am just wondering if a non magical holy symbol has any use for a non cleric.

Is there any reason for a character to have or use it other than role play?

Is underwear usefull for your character or only for roleplay ?

Silver Crusade

Eridan wrote:
blue_the_wolf wrote:

I am just wondering if a non magical holy symbol has any use for a non cleric.

Is there any reason for a character to have or use it other than role play?

Is underwear usefull for your character or only for roleplay ?

I guess it depends on what else he's wearing. With a kilt, for instance...

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