Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman
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Yesterday during a rather epic PFS organized play I managed to get my brain sucked from my gnomish skull by a very mean boss in Pathfinder Society Scenario #3-07 Echos of the Overwatched. My compatriots managed to kill the vile beast and I am sure with the utmost care removed my brain from its body. I was then brought back by the Risen Guard Osirian Faction Prestige award below. My question is what penalty do I incur? Does it function as per a Raise Dead or Resurrection? I am looking to make sure I have paid the correct costs for any Restoration spells needed and not to dispute rulings. Thank you.
Risen Guard (Fame 20, 8 PP) You may voluntarily
be killed and resurrected, becoming one of the Ruby
Prince’s elite Risen Guard. If you die in the course of
an adventure and have not yet purchased this title, you
may purchase it to be raised from the dead at this lower
price—any future expenditures of PP to be restored
from death cost the normal PP amount, as listed on page
3. While your primary mission as such is to protect the
royal family, the Ruby Prince recognizes your particular
strengths and orders you to protect his interests abroad
as a Pathf inder. As a Risen Guard, you may use the
honorif ic “the Risen” after your name. You gain a +2
bonus on Fortitude saves made against death effects and
on saves made to prevent a negative level from becoming
permanent. Once you gain this prestige award, you can
never change your faction.
It should work the same as a Raise Dead, just cheaper and with restrictions on your character's future. So you would need two Restorations, or one Greater Restoration, to get rid of the effects of the two negative levels. This may still need an official ruling, since the text uses both the word resurrection and the phrase "raised from the dead, so I am sure some folks may argue that it works like Resurrection and there is only one negative level to remove instead of two.
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I may be reading more into the description than I should, but I'd think it would be resurrection being cast if you go to the faction as a live person and spend the prestige to die and come back. If you are already dead, you are "raised from the dead", so I'd go with the negative levels from a raise dead. Again, that might be more nitpicky than they were trying to get, but it'd probably be how I ran it if it came up.
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I have wanted to get this thing for my Dwarf Cleric ever since I saw it (kinda morbid, I know :P). Ive been unsure on how it works though. Do I spend the initial PA now to get 'the Risen' title, and then get the benefit of a 1/2 price Raise Dead the first (and hopefully only) time he dies, or do I wait and do the whole thing the 1st time he dies, and at that point he gains 'the Risen' title + bonuses?
Sorry to threadjack, lol. And Congrats on the super awesome title.
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I have wanted to get this thing for my Dwarf Cleric ever since I saw it (kinda morbid, I know :P). Ive been unsure on how it works though. Do I spend the initial PA now to get 'the Risen' title, and then get the benefit of a 1/2 price Raise Dead the first (and hopefully only) time he dies, or do I wait and do the whole thing the 1st time he dies, and at that point he gains 'the Risen' title + bonuses?
Sorry to threadjack, lol. And Congrats on the super awesome title.
I believe you can do it both ways.
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Venture-Captain, Arizona—Tucson
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Yesterday during a rather epic PFS organized play I managed to get my brain sucked from my gnomish skull by a very mean boss in Pathfinder Society Scenario #3-07 Echos of the Overwatched.
I'm very sorry that your character suffered such a terrible fate, but...
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Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman
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I have wanted to get this thing for my Dwarf Cleric ever since I saw it (kinda morbid, I know :P). Ive been unsure on how it works though. Do I spend the initial PA now to get 'the Risen' title, and then get the benefit of a 1/2 price Raise Dead the first (and hopefully only) time he dies, or do I wait and do the whole thing the 1st time he dies, and at that point he gains 'the Risen' title + bonuses?
If you pay for it before you die, you get killed and resurrected. If you die during a scenario you get raised from the dead via Raise Dead.
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Yesterday during a rather epic PFS organized play I managed to get my brain sucked from my gnomish skull by a very mean boss in Pathfinder Society Scenario #3-07 Echos of the Overwatched.
How tragic, I'm sure your GM feels really, really terrible :P
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I dunno... he did look overjoyed at killing two players in one scenario. Yes I know that is you.
How tragic, I'm sure your GM feels really, really terrible :P
Not overjoyed at the killing, just at how well that CR 5 BBEG turned out. TBF, your group was subjected to a night of terrible, terrible luck, and for that - I am sympathetic.
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One of my players just asked me an interesting question about this prestige award. Would it be possible use the Magnimarian debt boon from Race from the Runecarved Key to reduce the cost of the Risen Guard award by half, if it was used as a raise dead effect?
I wouldn't think so. The Magnimarian debt speaks specifically to costs of spell casting services being reduced. Whereas, the Risen Guard expenditure is buying a boon/title that has a side effect of the effect of a spell being cast...sometimes.
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If you pay for it before you die, you get killed and resurrected. If you die during a scenario you get raised from the dead via Raise Dead.I have wanted to get this thing for my Dwarf Cleric ever since I saw it (kinda morbid, I know :P). Ive been unsure on how it works though. Do I spend the initial PA now to get 'the Risen' title, and then get the benefit of a 1/2 price Raise Dead the first (and hopefully only) time he dies, or do I wait and do the whole thing the 1st time he dies, and at that point he gains 'the Risen' title + bonuses?
You don't get a 1/2 price Raise Dead "the first (and hopefully only) time he dies", if by that you mean the first time he dies while adventuring after getting the title the Risen. You only get the 1/2 price at the time you take the title, whether that is immediately, at which time they kill you and Resurrect you, or the first time you die adventuring, at which time you get the title and bonuses after being raised from the dead.
I had to read through that a couple of times to realize that there was a distinction between resurrection and raised from the dead, as Steven wrote. At first I thought it was Resurrection either way.
As I understand it, after you take the title with Resurrection, you have to pay 4 prestige points if you want to remove the permanent negative level. If you wait until adventuring, you have to pay 8 prestige points (4 each a week apart) if you want to remove the two permanent negative levels, so all you are really getting is a 4PP discount, not really 1/2 price. It sucks that the Restoration spell description says that it dispels one permanent negative level but if you want to use it for that purpose through prestige points, you have to pay double. I guess that is better than the nearly quadruple price in gold, but you may be better off paying the 1280 gp per negative level unless you have prestige points to burn. With the change in factions, maybe we all do.
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It appears that both fame and Prestige Points transfer. What we don't have yet is a Pathfinder Society Field Guide with the Faction Boons for the new Year of the Sky Key factions. Somebody told me it was already released, but I don't see it in the products, so if it is out there, then it must have a different name.