The black pudding drops from the ceiling and attacks you.


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What AC is it going to hit? When it happened to me, it was my touch AC that the DM said it hit. Now that I am the DM, it looks to me as though it would just hit your normal AC. Any advice?


Krongar wrote:
What AC is it going to hit? When it happened to me, it was my touch AC that the DM said it hit. Now that I am the DM, it looks to me as though it would just hit your normal AC. Any advice?

Nothing in the rules suggest touch AC.

PRD wrote:
Melee slam +8 (2d6+4 plus 2d6 acid plus grab)

The GM may feel like it should be touch AC, but the rules disagree with him.


i would play the attack as a charge you may be flatfooted if you did not see it coming every thing else as the monster reads


The rules for falling objects (especially falling monsters!) are a bit vague and wishy-washy, IMO.

Here's part of the relevant portion:
"Dropping an object on a creature requires a ranged touch attack. Such attacks generally have a range increment of 20 feet. If an object falls on a creature (instead of being thrown), that creature can make a DC 15 Reflex save to halve the damage if he is aware of the object."

Now the question is: does a falling black pudding count as a falling object? Or is it just a funky charge/bull rush/grapple/overrun thingie?

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Kyras Ausks wrote:
i would play the attack as a charge you may be flatfooted if you did not see it coming every thing else as the monster reads

I'd do this, but also give the +1 attack bonus for being on higher ground, for a total +3 attack bonus against flat footed AC.


Excellent! Thanks guys! Appreciate the clarity!


I agree, it should have been against your Flat-Footed AC (in all likelihood), not Touch AC. I wonder if perhaps your DM simply confused the two at the time?

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I would've done Flat-footed Touch AC for any falling-on-you damage you might take (could be a decent amount if the fall was at least 30ft, being that it's huge size), then flat-footed AC for the Slam.

The slam attack roll would probably get a +2 from charging. An ad-hoc "higher ground" or "hard to miss when falling on you" bonus might apply, but that's up to the DM and probably shouldn't be more than +2. Given that it has grab, this could be very very bad for the player (and should be).

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I've never fought a black pudding in Pathfinder, but this thread gives me flashbacks about the first boss in Cadash on the TurboGrafx.

O.O


Jiggy wrote:

I've never fought a black pudding in Pathfinder, but this thread gives me flashbacks about the first boss in Cadash on the TurboGrafx.

O.O

That system and the Neo-Geo were the only home systems I never got to play.


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How can you fight any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?

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wraithstrike wrote:
Jiggy wrote:

I've never fought a black pudding in Pathfinder, but this thread gives me flashbacks about the first boss in Cadash on the TurboGrafx.

O.O

That system and the Neo-Geo were the only home systems I never got to play.

It took me a while to get used to how squishy you are at the beginning of Cadash. Once you made it to the first town you were usually okay, since you'd finally have the means to get healed. :P

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Tricky Kick was the best TurboGrafx game evah!


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Tricky Kick was the best TurboGrafx game evah!

Surely you meant to type Bomberman.

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cattoy wrote:
blackbloodtroll wrote:
Tricky Kick was the best TurboGrafx game evah!
Surely you meant to type Bomberman.

No, schoolgirls kicking old guys and aliens trumps it in coolness.

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