
Artemis Moonstar |

So, I theory-crafted a cross blooded elven sorcerer a few days ago. I realized today I forgot to look at the elf alternate sorc bonus...
Sorcerer: Select one bloodline power at 1st level that is normally usable a number of times per day equal to 3 + the sorcerer’s Charisma modifier. The sorcerer adds +1/2 to the number of uses per day of that bloodline power.
Now, the question for me would be how does this work with Crossb-looded archetype?
Bloodline Powers
At 1st, 3rd, 9th, 15th, and 20th levels, a crossblooded sorcerer gains one of the two new bloodline powers available to her at that level. She may instead select a lower-level bloodline power she did not choose in place of one of these higher-level powers.
Considering alternate racial bonuses. The following options are available to all elves who have the listed Favored Class, and unless otherwise stated, the bonus applies each time you select the listed Favored Class reward.
Now, I may not be understanding what constitutes as "otherwise stated", in which case this is all a moot point...
Assuming with the elf I can add +1/2 to the number of usages at every level (which means I get another usage every two levels?)... If I chose to learn the second bloodline's first lvl bloodline power for, say, the lvl 3 bloodline power, would I be able to select it as it is, by it's description, the 1st level bloodline power of that bloodline?
... God I hope that was understandable. Mind's too fuzzed to try and explain it any other way right now, lol.
Edit: Fixed terminology (trait -> bonus)

Artemis Moonstar |

Sure; why not?
It could be said that you're still getting a 1st level power. It's just a bit late.
In any case, it's not going to break open the universe so I'd say go for it.
So then that would be the case as well if I decided to get weird and pick up Eldritch Heritage too. Also, I assume I got it right that anything that adds +1/2 to usages is basically 'once every two levels'

Enevhar Aldarion |

Umbral Reaver wrote:So then that would be the case as well if I decided to get weird and pick up Eldritch Heritage too. Also, I assume I got it right that anything that adds +1/2 to usages is basically 'once every two levels'Sure; why not?
It could be said that you're still getting a 1st level power. It's just a bit late.
In any case, it's not going to break open the universe so I'd say go for it.
No, you add +1/2 every time you choose that as your favored class bonus, rather than the +1 skill point or HP or some other bonus, when leveling up as a sorcerer. So if you are a single-class sorcerer and you took this bonus every time you leveled up, then yes, you would be getting a +1 every two levels.

Artemis Moonstar |

Artemis Moonstar wrote:No, you add +1/2 every time you choose that as your favored class bonus, rather than the +1 skill point or HP or some other bonus, when leveling up as a sorcerer. So if you are a single-class sorcerer and you took this bonus every time you leveled up, then yes, you would be getting a +1 every two levels.Umbral Reaver wrote:So then that would be the case as well if I decided to get weird and pick up Eldritch Heritage too. Also, I assume I got it right that anything that adds +1/2 to usages is basically 'once every two levels'Sure; why not?
It could be said that you're still getting a 1st level power. It's just a bit late.
In any case, it's not going to break open the universe so I'd say go for it.
Which is what I meant. Need to remind myself this is a forum and subtext and meaning are inherently lost, lol.
Now, simply so I dont start another thread, and since we're discussing Cross Blooded here... The part of the drawback to cross-blooded in question is A crossblooded sorcerer has one fewer spell known at each level (including cantrips) than is presented on Table: Sorcerer Spells Known.
How does this affect those levels where you only have 1 spell known of that level? Example, at 4th level I know one 2nd level spell, and can cast it 3 times... With cross-blooded archetype you know one less fewer.... Does this mean that while I effectively have the capability of casting a 2nd level spell, I just don't know any to cast?

Artemis Moonstar |

Yep, I am pretty sure that is what it means. In your example, at 4th level you would not know a 2nd level spell, but you would still have the spell slots available for other uses. And once you got high enough level to know at least two 2nd levels spells, you would then know one.
Hmm... Sounds nifty. So basically you can use those slots for metamagic feats (if you would want to for some godawful reason as a sorcerer)...

Are |

Hmm... Sounds nifty. So basically you can use those slots for metamagic feats (if you would want to for some godawful reason as a sorcerer)...
Sorcerers are my favorite metamagic'ers; you can always use them if needed, or not if you don't, regardless of what you happened to prepare that day :)

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Cheapy wrote:Strange, I always thought prepared casters got shafted by mm.Admittedly I never really did look at MM in Pathfinder. I just never really liked the idea of giving up a usage of a spell for a powered up lower level spell. I just always found a use for the higher levels spells I picked.
It's situational. Try this one; At 10th level, what second level spell beats an intensified shocking gasp?

Cheapy |

Artemis Moonstar wrote:It's situational. Try this one; At 10th level, what second level spell beats an intensified shocking gasp?Cheapy wrote:Strange, I always thought prepared casters got shafted by mm.Admittedly I never really did look at MM in Pathfinder. I just never really liked the idea of giving up a usage of a spell for a powered up lower level spell. I just always found a use for the higher levels spells I picked.
Create Pit!

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LazarX wrote:Create Pit!Artemis Moonstar wrote:It's situational. Try this one; At 10th level, what second level spell beats an intensified shocking gasp?Cheapy wrote:Strange, I always thought prepared casters got shafted by mm.Admittedly I never really did look at MM in Pathfinder. I just never really liked the idea of giving up a usage of a spell for a powered up lower level spell. I just always found a use for the higher levels spells I picked.
Invisibility!