How much does one Cargo Unit weigh?

[Nobody Important]

My PC's in a sandbox campaign are already hinting at this...so I will need a good guestimate. Best I can figure about 400 pounds? But that makes food stores really really heavy.

Does anoybody out there have a good guess I can run with?

Cheers

[Cheapy]

One flipzeeboodle. Or rather, whatever you want.

I'd say 100 lbs tops, so they can floating disk that thing around.

[Maezer]

1 cargo unit of what?

1 barrel (36 gallons) of fresh water (8.33lb per gallon) is about 300 pounds. That might be a good weight for a cargo unit. But water's pretty heavy. So that might be a reasonable upper limit to the weight of a given cargo unit.

[Nobody Important]

I was actually thinking about the representative "Cargo Unit" from the Pathfinder "Jade Regent" Adventure Path...I was wanting the weight in pounds.

@Maezer...your math on weight of water is quite useful, thanks.

[Lincoln Hills]

The weight is going to vary a lot based on the climate you're expected to cross. Sea travel means you have to bring approximately 1 gallon per crew member per day - ditto for desert or scrub travel. Regular plains and hills will have occasional water sources so you usually won't need more than a two or three-day supply on hand at all times... and, of course, if anybody in the party has create water, all you need is an empty bucket.

Food, feed for mounts, and fuel for fires are probably all figured into the 'Cargo Unit' you mention - but calculations on such things will be pretty nit-picky (and still reliant on the terrain you intend to cross.) This is gonna involve some calculation on your part - how many people does 1 CU feed? And for how many days?

[Artanthos]

More to the point: How does a caravan compete economically with a mid-level summoner who can call a rather large swarm of lantern archons. Said summoner should easily manage to transport many tons of cargo in each direction every single day, without significant cost, in perfect safety.

For a 10'th level summoner, a single archon can transport 1,500 pounds, over a 10 minute time frame, in each direction.

[William Morgan]

Nobody Important wrote:

My PC's in a sandbox campaign are already hinting at this...so I will need a good guestimate. Best I can figure about 400 pounds? But that makes food stores really really heavy.

Does anoybody out there have a good guess I can run with?

Cheers

It is 250lbs, Look at the bag of holding chart. Well that is it for the 2 smaller. And 375 for a type 4. I would use 250lb. And it is only 50lb for treasure. Beacuse that is not packed for shipping.

Well that is the numbers i can find. But the idea of a cargo unit is it is a volume more then a weight I think. Cargo is bulk goods. like wool or silk or wheat. But they say it is a mix. So it would be a bolt of wool, a barrel of mead, and some hatchets. All in one cargo unit.

[Fox1212]

Artanthos wrote:

More to the point: How does a caravan compete economically with a mid-level summoner who can call a rather large swarm of lantern archons. Said summoner should easily manage to transport many tons of cargo in each direction every single day, without significant cost, in perfect safety.

For a 10'th level summoner, a single archon can transport 1,500 pounds, over a 10 minute time frame, in each direction.

These caravans are not a money business, but rather a way of travelling safely in difficult environments. It's not about how much cargo you can get from point A to point B to make a profit. Consider them gipsy caravans.

To quote James Jacobs from this thread:

James Jacobs wrote:

You know... this is a good point, and it's absolutely where my head was when I designed the rules. These are VARISIAN caravans, for the most part, and that means that they're essentially mobile home bases first and everything else second. They're not designed to be profitable trade ventures as much as they are tiny little mobile villages.

[LeadPal]

Artanthos wrote:

More to the point: How does a caravan compete economically with a mid-level summoner who can call a rather large swarm of lantern archons. Said summoner should easily manage to transport many tons of cargo in each direction every single day, without significant cost, in perfect safety.

For a 10'th level summoner, a single archon can transport 1,500 pounds, over a 10 minute time frame, in each direction.

You mean by teleporting? Doesn't work.

Summon Monster wrote:

A summoned monster cannot summon or otherwise conjure another creature, nor can it use any teleportation or planar travel abilities.

[Nobody Important]

William Morgan wrote:

Nobody Important wrote:

My PC's in a sandbox campaign are already hinting at this...so I will need a good guestimate. Best I can figure about 400 pounds? But that makes food stores really really heavy.

Does anoybody out there have a good guess I can run with?

Cheers

It is 250lbs, Look at the bag of holding chart. Well that is it for the 2 smaller. And 375 for a type 4. I would use 250lb. And it is only 50lb for treasure. Beacuse that is not packed for shipping.

Well that is the numbers i can find. But the idea of a cargo unit is it is a volume more then a weight I think. Cargo is bulk goods. like wool or silk or wheat. But they say it is a mix. So it would be a bolt of wool, a barrel of mead, and some hatchets. All in one cargo unit.

I never actually thought of using the bag of holding, that wieght might actually make sense. I think I can live with 250 pounds...

I figure characters with a decanter of endless water can save 9/10ths of the weight of their own food stores though.

Thanks