Very quick- and simple enough question.
Is an Unseen Servant ... smart enough/capable enough, to set up a Tent?
That is all!
Thank you! ^^
It is a mindless, magical effect. Not a creature.
That being said, it most certainly would be able to set up a tent.
As a rule of thumb, I would allow it to perform any physical activity that the spellcaster is capable of doing (subject to the limitations of the spell).
Very quick- and simple enough question.
Is an Unseen Servant ... smart enough/capable enough, to set up a Tent?
That is all!
Thank you! ^^
As long as you are telling it what to do. I would not expect it to just know it on its own.
Unseen Servant "...An unseen servant is an invisible, mindless, shapeless force that performs simple tasks at your command. It can run and fetch things, open unstuck doors, and hold chairs, as well as clean and mend....It can't perform any task that requires a skill check with a DC higher than 10 or that requires a check using a skill that can't be used untrained."
So I would say Yes it can put up a tent under normal circumstances, but any wind/rain (providing a negative) then no, as it cannot react.
Hey! That's three yes's!
Good Enough for me!
Thank ya!
My personal opinion is that if it is an untrained skill that can be succeeded at with taking 10 then the unseen servant can do it without any special stuff going on.
It's unskilled labor. Basically anything a commoner 1 could do within the confines of the spell, or course.
So yea. setting up a tent is well within that capability.
It's unskilled labor. Basically anything a commoner 1 could do within the confines of the spell, or course.
So yea. setting up a tent is well within that capability.
Commoners are not unskilled labor.
Commoners are not unskilled labor.It's unskilled labor. Basically anything a commoner 1 could do within the confines of the spell, or course.
So yea. setting up a tent is well within that capability.
A commoner with no skill ranks then as there is no official mechanic for level 0 characters.
It's unskilled labor. Basically anything a commoner 1 could do within the confines of the spell, or course.
So yea. setting up a tent is well within that capability.
That's *precisely* the way I interpret it.
(A 1st Level Commoner may have a few "skill points" but not enough to qualify as a "skilled laborer" IMHO).
ETA: So, yeah, I think an Unseen Servant can set up a tent, chop firewood, sweep out a room, bring you buckets of water (Sorcerer's Apprentice, anyone?), fold and put away your laundry, pluck a chicken, *possibly* bake a simple cake (If I were GM I'd have to say, 'yeah, it bakes the cake, but the cake is really dry and kind of bland'), etc.
The commoner's in the game mastery guide are rather talented and are professionals.
If you think you can farm as unskilled labor have fun with that. I know better, and apparently so does Paizo.
For those interested an easy break down of the economics of profession, commoners, and village size.
The commoner's in the game mastery guide are rather talented and are professionals.
If you think you can farm as unskilled labor have fun with that. I know better, and apparently so does Paizo.
For those interested an easy break down of the economics of profession, commoners, and village size.
an unskilled laborer can't coordinate a farming operation, but they can dig a ditch, put this seed in the ground every 3 feet, etc.
Farms use unskilled labor, but the farmer extrodinaire is skilled.
I'm sorry -- I refuse to believe the average commoner 2 farmer is the farmer extrodinaire.
First it doesn't hold up in world building.
Second it doesn't hold up mathematically.
Third it doesn't hold up to what is involved with farming.
And finally it doesn't make a lick of sense.
A second level farmer is the farmer extodiniare?
No -- that's your plain old commoner.
I suggest actually looking in the gamemastery guide, reading it, and checking out the NPCs they presented.
To qualify to be a skilled laborer you need a single rank in profession. That's all.
However if you would like to prove that average lifestyle isn't the average life style of the average person -- feel free to try and do so.
I'm sorry -- I refuse to believe the average commoner 2 farmer is the farmer extrodinaire.
First it doesn't hold up in world building.
Second it doesn't hold up mathematically.
Third it doesn't hold up to what is involved with farming.
And finally it doesn't make a lick of sense.
A second level farmer is the farmer extodiniare?
No -- that's your plain old commoner.
I suggest actually looking in the gamemastery guide, reading it, and checking out the NPCs they presented.To qualify to be a skilled laborer you need a single rank in profession. That's all.
Do you realize I'm agreeing with you? Farmer (profession Farmer 1 rank)=skilled. commoner (profession farmer 0 rank) = not skilled in regard to farming. However, farmer can tell commoner, dig a hole there *point*. Unseen servant = commoner (not farmer) in regard to skill at farming (in this example)
Nope we aren't in agreement because to me commoner = farmer.
Check the thread I referenced, I lay it all out there.
Basically put for the commoner to be common he must be average, if he's average then he's living the average lifestyle (which is for 'average' or 'the majority' of people) -- it isn't possible for him to do so on an unskilled laborer's income.
At which point everything about average and common fall apart.
Nope we aren't in agreement because to me commoner = farmer.
Check the thread I referenced, I lay it all out there.
Basically put for the commoner to be common he must be average, if he's average then he's living the average lifestyle (which is for 'average' or 'the majority' of people) -- it isn't possible for him to do so on an unskilled laborer's income.
At which point everything about average and common fall apart.
I think you're arguing semantics. a commoner with a rank in profession (farmer) is a farmer. A commoner without said rank is not a farmer, but if that same commoner has a rank in profession (shopkeeper) he is a shopkeeper. I simply use the "commoner" terminology because it's the closest thing in game terms to unskilled laborer that I am aware of. Humanoid level 0 would be more accurate, but I've never seen one.
Edit: not all commoners have a rank in all skills. The unseen servant is like a commoner without a rank in the skill you are asking it to do.