Please don't just say "stop playing with him" or call him names. Despite his flaws, he is a friend, and I have no desire to see him slagged off. Constructive advice on how to improve the situation only please.
We are about to dive into exalted again. I love exalted, more than most games combined, only mage, wraith and call of cthulhu sit higher on the totem pole for me.
However the guy we have Storytelling, who always seems to story tell our exalted games, cannot/will not hold back from spoilers.
We have just played through much of Carrion Crown, and at every step of the way, we have had spoilers heaped on us from on high.
Now we are going to be digging into return of the scarlet empress for exalted, and one member of our group as already revieved over an hours worth of spoiler.
What can we do to stop this?
Politely tell him or her that you can understand their excitement at the coolenss of the story, but they are ruining the story for you with all the spoilers.
Politely tell him or her that you can understand their excitement at the coolenss of the story, but they are ruining the story for you with all the spoilers.
Yes, We have tried that. He either ignores it, or takes it as an insult.
{silly} perform a "cup check" each time he spoilers something?{/silly}
{snarky} play Becoming Heroes where the demo convention game was actually killing the Scarlet Empress rather than having a static meta plot{/snark}
In all honesty, Dark Mistress probably has the best suggestion about how to deal with your friend's propensity for spoilers. Although you may be in the minority about not wanting to know spoilers.
I think talking to other players might help as well. Heck I do not like suprise chrsitmas gifts of things I do not want.
Im going to suggest the oposite. Use all this out of game knowledge meta-game the hell out of your character and encounters so show him that spoilers are bad.
You've already told him nicely you dont want spoilers , so now show him why they are bad.
Little example. My DM was talking about the ghoul ambush that he had. Told us where it was out of game. When we got to it in game I shot fireballs down and hole and nuked them before they could come out. GM was like "wtf!". My responce " spoilers are a b@#$% huh."
Im going to suggest the oposite. Use all this out of game knowledge meta-game the hell out of your character and encounters so show him that spoilers are bad.
You've already told him nicely you dont want spoilers , so now show him why they are bad.
Little example. My DM was talking about the ghoul ambush that he had. Told us where it was out of game. When we got to it in game I shot fireballs down and hole and nuked them before they could come out. GM was like "wtf!". My responce " spoilers are a b@#$% huh."
This is precisely what one of the other players is suggesting we do.
I can seperate IC knowledge and OOC Knowledge. But it is hard work. I'd rather not have to go through another campaign having to examine every action to see if I am meta-gaming.
I can seperate IC knowledge and OOC Knowledge. But it is hard work. I'd rather not have to go through another campaign having to examine every action to see if I am meta-gaming.
Then dont do it. From what you said the player have asked him nicely a number of times. Even went out of thier way to not hurt his feeling. So take his spoilers and run with them. Use them the crush the emeny and make him see how spoilers can ruin things.
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I agree with Tagion completely. IF he doesn't understand that it is annoying you and that you are having less fun, use his spoilers against him in a most effective manner. Prepare the right spells, get the right bane weapons etc etc...
If he still doesn't get it, well, maybe it's time for him to hang the GM gloves on a peg for a while. A long long while.
This might be kind of a drastic step, so I would only do it as a last resort.
Every time he tells a spoiler, you (and the other members of your group) stop playing. If you're playing at the DM's house or a gaming store, just get up and walk out. If you're playing a your house, tell the DM the game is over for the day.
You have to train him to not like the results of his actions. Every time he tells a spoiler, the game ends for the day. If he ever wants to play for a significant period of time, he will eventually learn not to tell spoilers.
Again, this is rather drastic. And obviously it will greatly limit your play time for a while until the GM gets the message. But it's worth a try if nothing else works.
Please don't just say "stop playing with him" or call him names. Despite his flaws, he is a friend, and I have no desire to see him slagged off. Constructive advice on how to improve the situation only please.
What can we do to stop this?
Sometimes we just have to accept people for who they are.
You can ignore his spoilers. You could attempt to bypass plot devices.
You could just accept that he is going to do this and just not worry about it.
I used to go out with a lady who chewed with her mouth open, scattering bits of partially chewed detris on the table, and she took about 45 minutes to an hour to eat no matter what the circumstance.
I eventually just started bringing things to read if we went out for a meal.
No need to get upset. Just figure out how to adapt.
In service,
I like DrGames suggestion. Maybe you can’t make it work, but give it a try at least. GMs do put in the most work, so why not get over this one thing as curtsey? Either try and forget what the GM told you or use it to make the story more fun.
It is understandable you’d rather not be the one to budge on this one - especially with when it bothers others players too – but at a certain point, you don’t get everything your way and we all have our annoying habits. If asking him to stop doesn’t help, really the only options are:
1) Leave the game.
2) Act like a douche.
3) Get over it.
Based on the bolded part of your post, I suggest #3.
Good Luck.
Im going to suggest the oposite. Use all this out of game knowledge meta-game the hell out of your character and encounters so show him that spoilers are bad.
You've already told him nicely you dont want spoilers , so now show him why they are bad.
Little example. My DM was talking about the ghoul ambush that he had. Told us where it was out of game. When we got to it in game I shot fireballs down and hole and nuked them before they could come out. GM was like "wtf!". My responce " spoilers are a b@#$% huh."
+1
Tell him about this example. Tell him it will happen to his campaign, even if only inadvertently.
Tell him you don't like have to examine each action for meta-gaming.
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I have a friend who used to do that too. Anytime anyone told him they were going to see a movie - he'd spoil the movie. Same thing with books, comics, adventure modules, anything. Even if you told him "NO!!! DON'T TELL ME, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!!! PLEEEEASE!!!", his next few words were invariably "But, there is this really cool...". This could also be repeated, SEVERAL TIMES, always just going back to "But, it's so cool that..." Nobody knows how much this happened, suffice it to say that each of us in the gaming group had MANY things spoilered by him.
Eventually, me and the other people in the group spontaneously decided to give him a taste of his own medicine. We were eating at a restaurant. All of us had seen Attack of the Clones, and he hadn't despite being a SW fan. He was going to see it. So we told him, despite his vehement protests, absolutely EVERYTHING that anyone could consider cool about that movie. In detail. He begged us to stop, which did not help, of course. Eventually he left.
After that, he came back to the group, and has not ever done this intentionally again. I feel a bit ashamed about doing it, but the message was received, and we can now share cool stuff without fearing to have them spoiled.