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Can i have a celestial armor or celestial plate armor made of mithril?
They would both have an DEX Bonus of 6/8 and armor check penalty of 0 and weight only half then.
Also, if some shield or armor has no armor check penalty or one of 0, it seems it doesn´t matter if a character is proficient with it or not.
If you add 0 to your attack and DEX and STR checks, thats not a problem somehow.
So i could just give my rogue/ninja a celestial mithral armor without problems. Is that viable or cheesy?
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Nope. Celestial armor is a specific type of armor. Any modification to it, including changing the base material, is fully in the realm of the house rule.
There was some talk about this back in 3.5. The word back then, as I recall, was that celestial armor couldn't be made with special materials to improve the bonuses. The idea being that the celestial enchantment provided set numbers, not stacking ones, and that the material was a requirement of the item.
And yes, it is kind of cheesy. But not the worst kind of cheese out there :p
Talk to your dm, see if he's ok with it. If you're talking about PFS, you're out of luck :/
Can i have a celestial armor or celestial plate armor made of mithril?
They would both have an DEX Bonus of 6/8 and armor check penalty of 0 and weight only half then.Also, if some shield or armor has no armor check penalty or one of 0, it seems it doesn´t matter if a character is proficient with it or not.
If you add 0 to your attack and DEX and STR checks, thats not a problem somehow.So i could just give my rogue/ninja a celestial mithral armor without problems. Is that viable or cheesy?
As a I understand it, by RAW you can not modify the specific armors. I think most people assume the celestial armors are already made using mithral as the starting material.
I houseruled that the celestial armors are made from a different special material -- call it "Celstium" or something -- found only on the Upper Planes.
Thanks for the advice^^
Will talk with GM.
Actually we are trying to decheese the game, but i was curious if that could function. Well having that character havbe a high AC wouldn´t be so cheesy, because as a ninja she is often in the heat of battle. Either because making so bad damage in first round or because there is only one other character being able to go front row.
Why is a mithral shirt a specific armor, or adamantine breastplates?
Because the magic item chapter also doubles as a random treasure generator. Non-magical weapons and armor made from special materials were included so there was a way for those items to be randomly generated. Otherwise, those items would never show up in-game unless specifically placed there.
Why is a mithral shirt a specific armor, or adamantine breastplates?Because the magic item chapter also doubles as a random treasure generator. Non-magical weapons and armor made from special materials were included so there was a way for those items to be randomly generated. Otherwise, those items would never show up in-game unless specifically placed there.
Actually, I don't think the Core book's magic item chapter doesn't have any random tables (I can't check at the moment). Those are all in the Gamemastery Guide.
They're mostly in there for legacy reasons. In earlier editions, as far as I know, mithral wasn't a generic material you could use for any armor, but a "mithral shirt" was a specific type of armor.
Actually, I don't think the Core book's magic item chapter doesn't have any random tables (I can't check at the moment). Those are all in the Gamemastery Guide.
They're mostly in there for legacy reasons. In earlier editions, as far as I know, mithral wasn't a generic material you could use for any armor, but a "mithral shirt" was a specific type of armor.
My copy of the core book does have random generation tables in it. The GameMastery Guide just expands on the core tables.
Also on a side note, the Celestial Full Plate does exist; it was in the 5th adventure(Skeletons of Scarwall) of the Curse of the Crimson Throne adventure path. Its in a sidebar and I believe it may already be mithril as well. Have to wait until I get home to look and be sure though...
Asked someone to look it up for me: yes, you're right, it's in there (page 29, to be exact) and I SOOOOO want to get one for my bodyguard fighter character.
It doesn't say anything about mithril, though, but who cares, it's pure awesome right as it is.Aura faint transmutation (good); CL 8th
Slot armor; Price 28,650 gp; Weight 25 lb.
Description
Celestial plate armor is a sturdier version of the standard
celestial armor. This bright silver suit of +3 full plate is
remarkably light, and is treated as medium armor. It
has a maximum Dexterity bonus of +6, an armor check
penalty of –3, and an arcane spell failure chance of 20%.
It allows the wearer to use fly on command (as the spell)
once per day.
Construction
Requirements Craft Magic Arms and Armor, creator
must be good, fly; Cost 115,150 gp, 1,080 XP
Edit: Creation cost seems to be a typo in the pdf.