Ask your DM. If you are the DM, go with what makes sense to you.
Stop being sensible. :)
Paladins can drink. There is nothing against it. Being an alcoholic or drug addict is strictly GM territory though. I don't think it is evil, but I would see it as chaotic.
PS:Actually everything is GM territory, but I think most GM's would not bother you if you had a drink or two.
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If a paladin can not use poisons does that mean he can not drink alcohol and use inhalant mind altering substances?
A paladin can't use poison against a foe because it's cowardly, unfair and risks harming other innocent parties, therefore it's dishonourable.
If his culture considers drinking alcohol to be an appropriate part of respectful social interaction, or using mind-altering substances to be a religious duty, and it doesn't otherwise cause harm to anyone, he not only can but should do those things.
A paladin can't use poison against a foe because it's cowardly, unfair and risks harming other innocent parties, therefore it's dishonourable.
Don't forget chaotic in how poisons disrupt a victim's biology.
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If a park ranger hits a bear with a tranq dart, that's not an Evil act. Poison isn't any more or less Evil than a blade. Paladins can't use poison because they agreed not to – not because there's anything wrong with poison. Maybe Paladins only get to keep their magically enhanced immune system so long as they don't take it for granted by using things that would tax it on purpose. Maybe their concern for public safety is so great that they are only willing to use weapons that look like weapons. Whatever. The point is that Paladins have to be Good and they can't use Poison, and these are separate restrictions.
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Tri, I was being serious. There's no need to troll.
Biological systems have an order to them, functions performed in a certain way that allows living creatures to, well, live. Poisons disrupting that natural balance, targeting these vital systems and hindering them; poisons, quite literally, spread chaos in what would otherwise be a very logical and orderly network.
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Don't forget that in most, if not all, fantasy settings the level of technology is at a Iron Age to Renaissance level, in which case characters aren't going to have much choice but to drink beer and/or wine. It wasn't until the late 19th century RW that people began to get a handle on the germ theory of disease and sterilization.
Prior to that, drinking water or anything else that hadn't been processed in some way had a good chance of killing you, and was something you did only if you had no choice. So you drank beer or wine morning, noon, and night. This is why "water into wine" is such a big deal, without wine everyone would have had to leave because there would have been nothing to drink.
This is the reason people got so obsessive over tea, coffee, and hot chocolate when they finally became available in commercial quantities.
If a paladin can not use poisons does that mean he can not drink alcohol and use inhalant mind altering substances?
A paladin cannot use poison on foes because it is considered dishonourable, and there are dangers of getting the wrong person with it. For example, if you poison the soup to kill the Evil Overlord and his minions, what happens when the remains of the soup are given by the good chef to the orphanage?
On the other hand, a paladin can drink, have fun and let their hair down as much as anyone as long as these do not rule their behaviour and render them unable to do their chosen vocation.
plus most civilized societies will kill you instantly, if they find poison on your person. it is the mark of a assassin.
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If a paladin can not use poisons does that mean he can not drink alcohol and use inhalant mind altering substances?A paladin can't use poison against a foe because it's cowardly, unfair and risks harming other innocent parties, therefore it's dishonourable.
If his culture considers drinking alcohol to be an appropriate part of respectful social interaction, or using mind-altering substances to be a religious duty, and it doesn't otherwise cause harm to anyone, he not only can but should do those things.
Well said.
Great, now couatls can't bite anything ever again.
Not really, they just have to be careful of who they bite ...
plus most civilized societies will kill you instantly, if they find poison on your person. it is the mark of a assassin.
I walked back from a store with a bottle of vodka and nobody killed me.
Strange, maybe I was just lucky.
Point is that the majority of fantasy campaigns are set at a tech level where alcoholic beverages are a necessity rather than a luxury.
plus most civilized societies will kill you instantly, if they find poison on your person. it is the mark of a assassin.
I walked back from a store with a bottle of vodka and nobody killed me.
Strange, maybe I was just lucky.
1. your polish so you drink that stuff like water lol (going for a joke not a racist comment all of my eastern european friends love there vodka)
2. i mean in golorian in todays society we have regulation \
but if you get stopped by the police with a bottle of chloroform and some rags in your coat they will ask a lot of uncomfortable questions.
If a paladin can not use poisons does that mean he can not drink alcohol and use inhalant mind altering substances?
-it means they can't poison their weapons.
-It means that they cannot take a prisoner and hop them up on LSD, shrooms, pesh, or what have you to the point that it begins to affect their health.
-Alchohol is not likely to be considered a poison in universe. Everyone drinks it 3 times a day from the time they turn 14 till the time they die.
-Alchohol is technically not a poison. Your body turns it into one though.
- this thinking would mean you can't use salt. In terms of salt vs pure alchohol i think salt is a little higher on the LD 50 chart. (a measure of lethality)
Grain alcohol 7,060 mg/kg
Table Salt 3,000 mg/kg
So yes, its more than twice as easy to kill someone with salt than with drinking alchohol.
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Great, now couatls can't bite anything ever again.Not really, they just have to be careful of who they bite ...
So using poison isn't an Evil act, depending on who you use it on?
So using poison isn't an Evil act, depending on who you use it on?Great, now couatls can't bite anything ever again.Not really, they just have to be careful of who they bite ...
Using a poison isn't an evil act. Its just against the paladin's code.
