Gravity bow and Firearms?


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Is it possible to use gravity bow on a firearm. The spell doesn't say any ranged weapons but arrows and bolts fired from a bow or crossbow you wield. So does the ultimate combat have anything about gravity or a similar spell? I'm asking because someone I play with is wanting to use a double barreled shotgun and gravity bow and with rapid reload full attack taking the -4 penalty on the attack rolls to deal 3d6 points of damage per attack.


The spell state clearly what it works on, so no. As to UC, I have no clue, but someone will chim in soon.

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Caim the Rogue wrote:
Is it possible to use gravity bow on a firearm. The spell doesn't say any ranged weapons but arrows and bolts fired from a bow or crossbow you wield. So does the ultimate combat have anything about gravity or a similar spell? I'm asking because someone I play with is wanting to use a double barreled shotgun and gravity bow and with rapid reload full attack taking the -4 penalty on the attack rolls to deal 3d6 points of damage per attack.

they could use an upsized gun at only the -2 to attack for oversized weapons, with an additional -2 for every size up they go, granted this does increase the cost by quite a bit


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Vehement1 wrote:


they could use an upsized gun at only the -2 to attack for oversized weapons, with an additional -2 for every size up they go, granted this does increase the cost by quite a bit

Ya know what kills me about comments like this? Who the hell is making giant guns and how are they so damned common and how did you get one?


as Vehement1 said
their is no need for gravity anything on guns.
As discussed in another thread you can wield whatever size of weapon you want, you suffer a -2 penalty per increase, but by RAW, as handedness doesn't change, you can wield a gargantuan double hackbutt as a pixie.

However the rules as intended (and your GM) will slap you silly if you try this. I think it's likely that a future FAQ will replace "handedness doesn't change" with "it's impossible to wield different sized weapons".

Edit: Giant ammunition still costs as much as a small dose.

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Vehement1 wrote:


they could use an upsized gun at only the -2 to attack for oversized weapons, with an additional -2 for every size up they go, granted this does increase the cost by quite a bit
Ya know what kills me about comments like this? Who the hell is making giant guns and how are they so damned common and how did you get one?

Craft (Guns). Time. The latter part may be an issue, though...

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Vehement1 wrote:


they could use an upsized gun at only the -2 to attack for oversized weapons, with an additional -2 for every size up they go, granted this does increase the cost by quite a bit
Ya know what kills me about comments like this? Who the hell is making giant guns and how are they so damned common and how did you get one?

special order :P


Richard Leonhart wrote:

as Vehement1 said

their is no need for gravity anything on guns.
As discussed in another thread you can wield whatever size of weapon you want, you suffer a -2 penalty per increase, but by RAW, as handedness doesn't change, you can wield a gargantuan double hackbutt as a pixie.

However the rules as intended (and your GM) will slap you silly if you try this. I think it's likely that a future FAQ will replace "handedness doesn't change" with "it's impossible to wield different sized weapons".

Edit: Giant ammunition still costs as much as a small dose.

I think you're confusing the mechanics of the spell with what it actually does. It increases the density of the ammunition in the instant before it hits the enemy. It does not increase the size of the weapon.


yes, but a gargantuan rifle also shoots gargantuan amunition, compare this to your normal rifle that uses gravity bow to shoot large ammo.

All I'm saying is, you can just grab the bigger gun for a constant, mundane gravity affect with only -2 attack (and you target touch AC).

Also I believe that gravity doesn't work on gargantuan things, altough I may be wrong.

p.s. as it is now, gravity bow works on bolts and arrows, altough a lenient GM would of course accept that it was written before UC.


Richard Leonhart wrote:

yes, but a gargantuan rifle also shoots gargantuan amunition, compare this to your normal rifle that uses gravity bow to shoot large ammo.

All I'm saying is, you can just grab the bigger gun for a constant, mundane gravity affect with only -2 attack (and you target touch AC).

Also I believe that gravity doesn't work on gargantuan things, altough I may be wrong.

p.s. as it is now, gravity bow works on bolts and arrows, altough a lenient GM would of course accept that it was written before UC.

Ahhh, I see the point you're making. Forgive my misreading of your post, and shame on me for browsing forums at 3:00 am ;)

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