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But I'm not sure this is the correct place for this thread. Basically, I have a question about whether I ought to run the game via Skype with a VTT or as a PBEM. I also have a question about which AP would be best to run this way. And lastly, I need a passel of players!

First things first. My preference would be to run things via Skype with a VTT, but I have a bit of a flaky connection. It's high speed, but I suffer from occasional and unpredictable dropouts that last a few seconds each. Sometimes these don't occur at all during an evening, and other times they happen every 20 minutes. My inexperience with Skype and VTTs means I don't know if this would be an issue or not. Any advice here would be helpful, since I will certainly play a PBEM if needful, but the pace of a PBEM is slow enough, and doing combat in a PBEM is dodgy enough, that I would rather avoid it if the Skype would work.

Secondly, which AP should I run? Practically it's limited to one of the first five, since I'm currently running a Kingmaker game, I'm playing in both Carrion Crown and Serpent Skull, and I don't have enough familiarity with Asian themes to do justice to Jade Regent. I'll rule out Second Darkness, since drow leave me cold, which means it's a choice of Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, Legacy of Fire, or Council of Thieves. I've never played or run any of them (with the exception of playing through a modified version the first book of CotCT in a game that fell apart). Do any of these APs have any features that would particularly recommend them for or against a Skype or PBEM experience?

And lastly, I need players. Four or five of them, in fact. I live in GMT-6 (US Central), which would matter for Skype but not for PBEM, obviously. I would plan on weekly Skype sessions lasting from 6:00-10:00 PM (give or take an hour on either end, so long as it's a 2 1/2-4 hour session and I'm in bed by 11:00) on a weeknight. If I go PBEM then I would want posts probably daily to keep things moving in that notoriously slow medium. I've been playing and GMing since 1978 (damn I'm old) and I'd be looking for people who enjoy roleplaying and who don't want to break my game with a funky unstoppable build.

OK, that's enough. Help me! :)

Sovereign Court

I don't know what PBEM means play by e-mail? have you considered play by post here?

I have an interest in playng with this character, and this gentleman also has a 15 point buy character.


i wouldnt personally mind a Rise of the Runelords campaign cuz i hear its pretty good from my older brother. On sykpe i could only post around 1 am Central Time (Hughes net SUXXX) but otherwise im game to try :) i gathered, correct me if im wrong, that ur going to be the DM?

Liberty's Edge

I wouldbe interested in a Play by Post game as well...and Runelords would be fun!

Sovereign Court

Mordecai Jethramson wrote:
i wouldnt personally mind a Rise of the Runelords campaign cuz i hear its pretty good from my older brother. On sykpe i could only post around 1 am Central Time (Hughes net SUXXX) but otherwise im game to try :) i gathered, correct me if im wrong, that ur going to be the DM?

heh, I just linked you.


Hey! Daniel! lolz ironic. we're applying for two games together. I'm trying to get into Raventhorn's homegame as Gaeron Abraxus!lolz nice to see another Divine starting off Sorceror (granted our bloodlines are different but don't tell Gaeron about his XD he has no idea) anyways thanks knight.


So possible future DM :) what are the rules and such for our character builds? point buy system and such lolz


This character was built specifically for Curse of the Crimson Thrown. If you're ok with the Spherewalker Prestige class I'd love to put him in that game.

If it's one of the others, I have a Martial Artist Monk that I've been trying to find a game for, but I'm interested in all of the games you mentioned.

I don't do Skype, but if it's PbP here I'm all for it.


If this ends up being a pbp game I'd definitely be interested! Rise of the Runelords or curse of the crimson thrones would be pretty awesome! Although i'd be down for any of them. And skype could be good, I haven't played in any games using that medium yet so I'll give it a shot if things get off the ground.

-Inquisitor Leet


I'd go for a 15-point buy. If we do CotCT I would completely redo the opening situation and traits (the whole vendetta against Lamm is pretty weak, IMO). The others I would likely run as-is.

And yes, I'll GM. :-)

Liberty's Edge

Mordecai Jethramson wrote:
So possible future DM :) what are the rules and such for our character builds? point buy system and such lolz

Hey knight...did not recognize you LOL....I still have no idea if I am in on that game or not!! What are you looking to play here??

DM: I have a Monk (Zen Archer) that I would like to use...but I will need to scale down his stats (20pt. build). When I get home I will upload the info, if that is OK. Which adventure are we looking at?? I have not played either Crimson or Runelore, so either would be ok...just need the background info is all
thanks


Daniel Stewart wrote:
Mordecai Jethramson wrote:
So possible future DM :) what are the rules and such for our character builds? point buy system and such lolz

Hey knight...did not recognize you LOL....I still have no idea if I am in on that game or not!! What are you looking to play here??

DM: I have a Monk (Zen Archer) that I would like to use...but I will need to scale down his stats (20pt. build). When I get home I will upload the info, if that is OK. Which adventure are we looking at?? I have not played either Crimson or Runelore, so either would be ok...just need the background info is all
thanks

lolz im looking to play a fighter in this game, its been ages since ive played my favorite class it feels like lolz. im pretty sure ur a shoe in as one of the canditates, and i have a good feeling i am too, just being optimisitc


Gregg Helmberger wrote:

I'd go for a 15-point buy. If we do CotCT I would completely redo the opening situation and traits (the whole vendetta against Lamm is pretty weak, IMO). The others I would likely run as-is.

And yes, I'll GM. :-)

Awesome! lolz that makes it easy on me cuz i started w 15 point buy on Mordecai :)


I'd love to be in this. I just posted about looking for a PbP game :D

Is this a PFS game? I will get my character fixed tonight or early tomorrow (friend's birthday tonight :/).


I'd be up for playing if it's done via VTT (PBEM and PBP move too slowly for me). Any of the APs would be good, haven't played any of them before. Don't have a character concept yet, though.


Pendent wrote:


Is this a PFS game?

It will definitely not be a Society game. It will be one of the APs, at this point either RotRL or CotCT.

I'll be leaving this open for a few days and see what sort of response I get, so don't expect any quick character decisions. :-)


Well this is the character I'd like to run, otherwise I'm not interested.


I'd love to do a PBEM (will you use Yahoo Groups?), though if you do the Runelords AP I'd have to warn you that I'm running two groups through it myself. I'm pretty good at keeping IC knowledge from OOC knowledge, but I can understand if you'd prefer 'new' players.

Kingmaker sounds awesome, though. Any chance of that?


Hmm, I might be interested in a game over skype.
I'm from europe though and english isn't my first language, hope that wouldn't be a problem.


Rotolutundro wrote:

I'd love to do a PBEM (will you use Yahoo Groups?), though if you do the Runelords AP I'd have to warn you that I'm running two groups through it myself. I'm pretty good at keeping IC knowledge from OOC knowledge, but I can understand if you'd prefer 'new' players.

Kingmaker sounds awesome, though. Any chance of that?

I would prefer players who haven't had any (or at least extensive) experience with the AP in question. And no chance of Kingmaker -- the one I'm running requires more work and effort than any homebrew I've ever run, such that running two groups through it would be well beyond my ability to maintain. Seriously, the AP is a blast and I encourage everyone to play it, but it requires extensive prep each week to make it fun, and because of the sandbox nature of it, the work you do for one group can't be transferred to another.


I'm getting confused--have you decided if this will be a skype, PBP or PBEM game?

Liberty's Edge

Here is the character I would like to play...there will be a background coming once we decide on the AP.

Character:

DARPAN BALA MANUJYESTHA CR 1/2
Male Human (Vudrani) Monk (Zen Archer) 1
LN Medium Humanoid (Human)
Init +1; Senses Perception +7
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DEFENSE
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AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 13. . (+1 Dex)
hp 9 (1d8+1)
Fort +3, Ref +3, Will +5
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OFFENSE
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Spd 30 ft.
Melee Handaxe +1 (1d6+1/20/x3)
Ranged Longbow, Comp. (Str +2) -1 (1d8+1/20/x3)
Special Attacks Flurry of Blows -1/-1
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STATISTICS
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Str 13, Dex 13, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 17, Cha 10
Base Atk +0; CMB +1; CMD 15
Feats Improved Unarmed Strike, Monk Weapon Proficiencies, Perfect Strike (2d20) (1/day), Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot
Traits Anatomist, Child of the Temple: Knowledge (Religion)
Skills Acrobatics +5, Craft (Bows) +4, Knowledge (Religion) +5, Perception +7, Sense Motive +7, Stealth +5
Languages Common, Vudrani
SQ AC Bonus +3, Unarmed Strike (1d6)
Combat Gear Handaxe, Longbow, Comp. (Str +2); Other Gear Artisan's tools: Craft (Bows), Backpack (3 @ 9.5 lbs), Bedroll, Flint and steel, Pouch, belt (2 @ 0.72 lbs), Shaving kit, Waterskin
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SPECIAL ABILITIES
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AC Bonus +3 The Monk adds his Wisdom bonus to AC and CMD, more at higher levels.
Anatomist +1 to confirm critical hits.
Flurry of Blows -1/-1 (Ex) Make Flurry of Blows attack as a full action.
Improved Unarmed Strike Unarmed strikes don't cause attacks of opportunity, and can be lethal.
Perfect Strike (2d20) (1/day) Roll 2d20 for an attack with a Monk weapon and use the higher as your attack roll, the next as your critical confirmation.
Point Blank Shot +1 to attack and damage rolls with ranged weapons at up to 30 feet.
Precise Shot You don't get -4 to hit when shooting or throwing into combat.
Rapid Shot You get an extra attack with ranged weapons. Each attack is at -2.
Unarmed Strike (1d6) The Monk does lethal damage with his unarmed strikes.


Pendent wrote:
I'm getting confused--have you decided if this will be a skype, PBP or PBEM game?

Nope, I haven't. I'm going to leave it open for a few days and see what sort of interest I drum up.


Oh, and just so you know, if I run Curse of the Crimson Throne, there will be a huge revision in the setup -- different background, different traits, different everything, and it might require a revision of your character ideas. Just FYI.

Sovereign Court

Well as a DM I've run two groups through Rise of the Runelords, but I'm pretty good at separating player knowledge from character knowledge. But I haven't read CotCT. I still don't know what PBEM means. I know of Skype although I've never actually used it before.


PBEM = Play By E-Mail.

Sovereign Court

Javell DeLeon wrote:
PBEM = Play By E-Mail.

Oh okay so I guessed right with my first post, cool.


I made up this bard for CotCT and didn't get to the first encounter because girl who elected herself party leader and I did not agree on methods.

I thought the opening encounter was extremely weak, myself. With everything else going on in the city, we're worried about some douche sitting in a cannery? Why? Made no sense.

Liberty's Edge

Is this game still actively recruiting??? I have not seen any action here for awhile


I could be interested too if this is a PBP game


The game is still recruiting. I was thinking I'd decide on game and medium tomorrow and then come up with some intro stuff to put around so as to give a sort of intro to my GMing style and some house rules about classes and whatnot.


If you are still recruiting then I'd like to get my interest noted.

I can toss out a player concept. However, I'd be happy to play any role that is deemed as needed to round out the group.


I have enough time to throw my hat in. Would need to be a PbP though.

Liberty's Edge

Fantastic...You have my character concept, just waiting for the AP to flesh out my background


I am going to submit Drobhan Stonebeard, a Dwarven Monk of the Sacred Mountain. Further details will be dependant on which AP goes ahead.

Sovereign Court

Manx Serimus wrote:

If you are still recruiting then I'd like to get my interest noted.

I can toss out a player concept. However, I'd be happy to play any role that is deemed as needed to round out the group.

You're not allowed to play pathfinder at all (including real life) until you change that avatar!


The game will be a play-by-email game run through Yahoo Groups, to facilitate storage of maps and files. I've decided to go with Curse of the Crimson Throne. However, since my experience with the AP showed me that book 1 was really a hugely weak point and provided virtually no connective tissue to book 2 and no reason for the PCs to stick together after achieving the initial goal, I will be tossing it out and doing other thing with the first part of the AP.

I'll be getting more information out as time permits today (it's a busy day at work!) but I will give some info on the initial situation. ALL PCs will be members of an extended, adoptive family in Korvosa. Their "father figure" is an elderly human male named Reinhart Jervish, who has taken in street kids and given them a home and a family for decades. ALL characters are Korvosa born and raised. NO character has ever traveled outside Korvosa before, or is willing to; Korvosa is home. ALL PCs will be youngish (I'll be dramatically adjusting the age of adulthood for the longer-lived races, since I think it's a bit absurd to think of a 50-year-old elven toddler; all races will achieve adulthood by age 30, and the longer-lived ones will just stay adults longer).

As far as character classes go, there will be nothing from Ultimate Combat (I don't have the book and I'm not familiar with anything from it). Nothing from 3.0, 3.5, or third parties (again, I don't have it and I'm not familiar with it). Absolutely no evil PCs; don't even ask. Absolutely no firearms; don't even ask. And although I'm not a Killer DM, Paizo's APs are deadly and I do let the dice fall where they may, so PC death is a real possibility; if you're only interested in playing a single character and will quit if the character dies, please save everyone the aggravation and don't bother to apply. 15-point buy.

Again, much more information will be forthcoming, including the Yahoo Groups site (I haven't set it up yet). If you're still interested in playing a character, let me know. Don't bother with character ideas yet, since you may change your mind when you read the intro materials -- just let me know if you're still interested or not.

Please go ahead and download the Crimson Throne player's guide, and just ignore the stuff about Gaedren Lamm, as well as the traits. The advice it has about classes and the background information about Korvosa all still applies.


Sure, I'm game. I'm all for gritty realism of 15 point buy.

Sovereign Court

Gregg Helmberger wrote:


I'll be getting more information out as time permits today (it's a busy day at work!) but I will give some info on the initial situation. ALL PCs will be members of an extended, adoptive family in Korvosa. Their "father figure" is an elderly human male named Reinhart Jervish, who has taken in street kids and given them a home and a family for decades. ALL characters are Korvosa born and raised. NO character has ever traveled outside Korvosa before, or is willing to; Korvosa is home. ALL PCs will be youngish (I'll be dramatically adjusting the age of adulthood for the longer-lived races, since I think it's a bit absurd to think of a 50-year-old elven toddler; all races will achieve adulthood by age 30, and the longer-lived ones will just stay adults longer).

Is it all right if we're not necessarily a part of the "Family" but have been staying with them on a charity basis while trying to get back in the good graces of our true family? That would fit in quite well with my character history.


Definitely interested in giving it a shot. I'll toss in a half-elven urban ranger, stats and background will come soon! Level one and average gold?

-Inquisitor Leet


lastknightleft wrote:


Is it all right if we're not necessarily a part of the "Family" but have been staying with them on a charity basis while trying to get back in the good graces of our true family? That would fit in quite well with my character history.

Tell me more. You can email it to me at theuglyamerican@gmail.com.


I believe I will wait until more information is forthcoming to come up with a concept, if that is alright. I am pretty good at plugging holes in the roster. I tend to favor arcanists, though.


Inquisitor Leet wrote:

Definitely interested in giving it a shot. I'll toss in a half-elven urban ranger, stats and background will come soon! Level one and average gold?

-Inquisitor Leet

Definitely level one, and average gold works fine with me.


I am still interested, althogh my earlier Monk idea will be shelved. What little you've given us has already gifted me with the nutty kernel of a character.


Gregg Helmberger wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:


Is it all right if we're not necessarily a part of the "Family" but have been staying with them on a charity basis while trying to get back in the good graces of our true family? That would fit in quite well with my character history.
Tell me more. You can email it to me at theuglyamerican@gmail.com.

Actually if you just look at the profile you'll see the history there, he's on bad terms with his parents for his troublemaking youth, but he's trying to make up for his bad behavior before facing Pharasma's judgement. He's a charming guy and probably knew or your adoptive family as a place to crash occasionally when he couldn't bed some lady, but once he had his "Accident" probably came to this family as a place to stay a while where he wasn't getting up to trouble constantly. So they've seen him change from a troublemaker to a devout of Pharasma wishing to lead a more balanced life.


Terry Hammerstein wrote:

Actually if you just look at the profile you'll see the history there, he's on bad terms with his parents for his troublemaking youth, but he's trying to make up for his bad behavior before facing Pharasma's judgement. He's a charming guy and probably knew or your adoptive family as a place to crash occasionally when he couldn't bed some lady, but once he had his "Accident" probably came to this family as a place to stay a while where he wasn't getting up to trouble constantly. So they've seen him change from a troublemaker to a devout of Pharasma wishing to lead a more balanced life.

The big issue with this AP, in my experience, is that the PCs don't have any reason to stick together once the initial action is finished. That basically killed the game of it I played in. So one of the ways I'm working to get around that is to make all the PCs members of the same family. Since I didn't want to limit players to a single race, I've decided that the PCs are all members of an adoptive family. Because of that, it really is important that players be MEMBERS of that family, rather than just friends or acquaintances.

Liberty's Edge

Think I will let this one slide...thanks all and have a great game!!!


I'm still game - I'm thinking either fighter, rogue or ranger (leaning toward rogue), though wizard is also appealing. I guess if I die I can try 'em all! ;)

If there's room for me, I'll stat something up tomorrow.


OK< the group is here:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/greggscrimsonthronegame/

When you join, you'll be sent a couple of documents -- one contains the new background and a few minor house rules and the replacement campaign traits. Basically, think of it as replacing a good chunk of the CotCT Player's Guide. The other is a very short questionnaire that I'll use to help me select the four players we'll go with. Please note that I've bumped the build from 15 to 20 points to help you with a variety of builds.

Sovereign Court

Gregg Helmberger wrote:

OK< the group is here:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/greggscrimsonthronegame/

When you join, you'll be sent a couple of documents -- one contains the new background and a few minor house rules and the replacement campaign traits. Basically, think of it as replacing a good chunk of the CotCT Player's Guide. The other is a very short questionnaire that I'll use to help me select the four players we'll go with. Please note that I've bumped the build from 15 to 20 points to help you with a variety of builds.

Please bump it back down, why'd you go and do that, 15 point buy is the best and I was super excited when you said it'd be 15 point buy. Now it's just lame old 20 point buy bummer.

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