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Howdy Everyone,
My question is. I am tasked to make a Character with a Compainion/mount/Follower. PF
The Gm is aloud me to create a 10 ranger class. The race I choosen is a Drow. The GM check for to see if I were to be a 1 out of 20 chance for a Noble Drow. Luck was on my side to be a Noble Drow. I asked if any way for a dragon(Blue or Umbral)be my (Compainion/Mount/Follower).
How do I make this work for the 10 level Noble Drow Ranger with a Dragon Compainion/Mount/Follower. One rule aloud me to do for free is the ability have the Compainion/Mount/Follower as like the Druid as First level insted of 4th level Hunt's Bond.
What is the best way to get the most effective age setting on the Dragon and with my character age; like a Medium/Large/Huge Dragon age for sizes? Can this be done?
The Alignment is either: (Neutral Good/Lawful Neutral/Choas Good)for the Drow.
Please given me your insight on this subject.
Thank you for your time.
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Howdy Everyone,
My question is. I am tasked to make a Character with a Compainion/mount/Follower. PF
The Gm is aloud me to create a 10 ranger class. The race I choosen is a Drow. The GM check for to see if I were to be a 1 out of 20 chance for a Noble Drow. Luck was on my side to be a Noble Drow. I asked if any way for a dragon(Blue or Umbral)be my (Compainion/Mount/Follower).
How do I make this work for the 10 level Noble Drow Ranger with a Dragon Compainion/Mount/Follower. One rule aloud me to do for free is the ability have the Compainion/Mount/Follower as like the Druid as First level insted of 4th level Hunt's Bond.
What is the best way to get the most effective age setting on the Dragon and with my character age; like a Medium/Large/Huge Dragon age for sizes? Can this be done?
The Alignment is either: (Neutral Good/Lawful Neutral/Choas Good)for the Drow.
Please given me your insight on this subject.
Thank you for your time.
It already sounds like your GM deviates pretty strongly from the RAW rules, so you'll want to talk to him about what he'll allow.
However somet things to keep in mind if you are going to do this by the rules:
Ensure you account for your Drow racial hit die. (a lvl 10 won't be a drow with 10 levels in ranger) Look at feats for leadership and/or animal companions. Within the rules, about the only place to start that's coming to mind is Cavalier, or maybe Paladin if you and your dragon are going to be good aligned.
Given that Rangers' animal companions are worked as a druid at 4 levels lower, it's not a likely way to end up with a companion as powerful as a dragon.
However even if you attempt to start within the rules, I do fear you'll find no legal way to get to the destination you seek. As I said, you'll have to just talk to your GM and find out what he's going to let you go with.
Honestly I'd lower your aim.. I think ending up with a small hatchling is about the most one could hope for, and even that's beyond a reasonable expectation at most tables.
Howdy Everyone,
My question is. I am tasked to make a Character with a Compainion/mount/Follower. PF
The Gm is aloud me to create a 10 ranger class. The race I choosen is a Drow. The GM check for to see if I were to be a 1 out of 20 chance for a Noble Drow. Luck was on my side to be a Noble Drow. I asked if any way for a dragon(Blue or Umbral)be my (Compainion/Mount/Follower).
How do I make this work for the 10 level Noble Drow Ranger with a Dragon Compainion/Mount/Follower. One rule aloud me to do for free is the ability have the Compainion/Mount/Follower as like the Druid as First level insted of 4th level Hunt's Bond.
What is the best way to get the most effective age setting on the Dragon and with my character age; like a Medium/Large/Huge Dragon age for sizes? Can this be done?
The Alignment is either: (Neutral Good/Lawful Neutral/Choas Good)for the Drow.
Please given me your insight on this subject.
Thank you for your time.
No need to be a ranger, try this class.
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Howdy Everyone,
My question is. I am tasked to make a Character with a Compainion/mount/Follower. PF
The Gm is aloud me to create a 10 ranger class. The race I choosen is a Drow. The GM check for to see if I were to be a 1 out of 20 chance for a Noble Drow. Luck was on my side to be a Noble Drow. I asked if any way for a dragon(Blue or Umbral)be my (Compainion/Mount/Follower).
How do I make this work for the 10 level Noble Drow Ranger with a Dragon Compainion/Mount/Follower. One rule aloud me to do for free is the ability have the Compainion/Mount/Follower as like the Druid as First level insted of 4th level Hunt's Bond.
What is the best way to get the most effective age setting on the Dragon and with my character age; like a Medium/Large/Huge Dragon age for sizes? Can this be done?
The Alignment is either: (Neutral Good/Lawful Neutral/Choas Good)for the Drow.
Please given me your insight on this subject.
Thank you for your time.
No need to be a ranger, try this class.
The GM will Not aloud any third party rules, cause he refurs to not be true offical rules in PF. And he reviewed the class and see's the class not balanced at all.
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I agree with Mogart. If your GM allows third party stuff, the Dragonrider class is very cool. I am playing a Dhampir dragonrider that has an Umbral dragon as his mount (based on the Red Dragon progression). Yeah, I know, kinda munchkin :)
This sounds really cool cause with the Dhampir and Umbral Dragon. The Quailities clash really well.
The GM will Not aloud any third party rules, cause he refurs to not be true offical rules in PF. And he reviewed the class and see's the class not balanced at all.Howdy Everyone,
My question is. I am tasked to make a Character with a Compainion/mount/Follower. PF
The Gm is aloud me to create a 10 ranger class. The race I choosen is a Drow. The GM check for to see if I were to be a 1 out of 20 chance for a Noble Drow. Luck was on my side to be a Noble Drow. I asked if any way for a dragon(Blue or Umbral)be my (Compainion/Mount/Follower).
How do I make this work for the 10 level Noble Drow Ranger with a Dragon Compainion/Mount/Follower. One rule aloud me to do for free is the ability have the Compainion/Mount/Follower as like the Druid as First level insted of 4th level Hunt's Bond.
What is the best way to get the most effective age setting on the Dragon and with my character age; like a Medium/Large/Huge Dragon age for sizes? Can this be done?
The Alignment is either: (Neutral Good/Lawful Neutral/Choas Good)for the Drow.
Please given me your insight on this subject.
Thank you for your time.
Your god has spoken, sadly for you your god has said No
No need to be a ranger, try this class.
I'd recommend going with a pseudodragon. They're accessible through core rules, flavorful, and hardly game-breaking at your level.
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Quite frankly, given the ego of most Dragons, YOU'D be the cohort.
Note to self: Ban Drow PC's from any future campaign I run.
You shouldn't be so hateful to the drow race. There is really nothing wrong with the drow or Noble drow race. Yes they did give the drow race a broken no CR rating. But just have fun with the drow. another one you should count is the Azlanti.
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The easiest way to get a Dragon companion is to use the Leadership feat and have a dragon cohort which is 2 levels lower than you, although I can't recall if that translates to having 2 less CR than you level or 2 less Hit Dice than your level. In either case, there are no dragons large enough for a Drow to ride at that level. (Since your ranger is lvl 10, and you need something which is CR 8 or 8 Hit Dice maximum)
If you choose a small race, like Halfling, you can get a Medium Sized White Dragon at that level which you should be able to ride.
The GM will Not aloud any third party rules, cause he refurs to not be true offical rules in PF. And he reviewed the class and see's the class not balanced at all.
Wait he is allowing a drow noble pc but he things the super genius dragon rider isnt balanced? I wish you luck my friend, but reason and logic will not help you with this gm. I recommend bribery, and asking to combine leadership and your companion ability into one to get a dragon cohort at a reasonable point.
See if he will allow the drake tamer from the Book of drakes by Open Design. It is an Alt summoner build that looks more balanced then the summoner much less the dragon Rider, At level 10 you would have a CR 6 drake. The same book also has the willful companion feat giving you a drake cohort of half your level.
And unlike some books this is aimed as much as the GM as the player and I found it very well done.
The one relatively balanced yet flavorful suggestion I see (from DreamAtelier) that I think would work best would be to play a summoner and shape the eidolon to look like a dragon.
Pseudodragon also works but I have a feeling that's not what the OP is looking for.
Otherwise... now, were I GM, I would not allow a dragon companion large enough to ride, simply because they have too many hit dice and/or challenge rating-increasing factors to be a relatively balanced companion. But I would also not allow a drow noble PC, not even on a lucky die roll (unless my PCs in general were on par with a drow noble's power).
So as one of the first posters said: this is really a GM call--there is nothing in the rules as written that's going to back this up firmly.
As close as I could think to come up with is determine the level/HD of a cohort you would get with the leadership feat and design a dragon around it--but again, unlikely it will be ridable.
One thing to play around with is the cavalier class rather than the ranger, since you want it to be a mount--maybe take away several cavalier abilities for a more powerful mount (and probably not give the character a dragon capable of flight until 4th level or so).
But again--this is really entirely in the GM's court.
Now, if the GM does allow it, the type of dragon I'd suggest would probably be umbral or crystal (from the Bestiary 2) as appropriate for a drow.
The Dragon Rider class is horribly unbalanced and I've listed the reasons why in my earlier post. Drow Noble PC's are unbalanced too, but maybe the GM is running a monster party. The class and the race are two separate issues though either way.Wait he is allowing a drow noble pc but he things the super genius dragon rider isnt balanced? I wish you luck my friend, but reason and logic will not help you with this gm. I recommend bribery, and asking to combine leadership and your companion ability into one to get a dragon cohort at a reasonable point.
The GM will Not aloud any third party rules, cause he refurs to not be true offical rules in PF. And he reviewed the class and see's the class not balanced at all.
I agree that they are separate issues, but it seems to me that allowing a drow noble in a game (where since he only had a chance to be a drow noble) not everyone has access to it, balance isnt being maintained.
And as for the dragon rider, I wont thread jack to argue with you, but what I will say is that based on my play experience with a dragon rider in my party the restrictions placed on the dragons particulary in the way of actions brings it well bellow the power of either the summoner or the druid in terms of power.
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it seems to me that allowing a drow noble in a game (where since he only had a chance to be a drow noble) not everyone has access to it, balance isnt being maintained.
It depends on what the rest of the party is. If the OP is playing a Ranger 10 Drow noble, but the rest of the party is playing Class 13 Core Race, then balance would be more or less maintained.
As to the dragon question, I have never allowed a dragon mount ... I have had dragon agree to haul a character from point A to point B as a favor, but never as a permanent mount. Most intelligent beings would not willingly allow themselves to become beasts of burden, at least in my view. YMMV.
it seems to me that allowing a drow noble in a game (where since he only had a chance to be a drow noble) not everyone has access to it, balance isnt being maintained.It depends on what the rest of the party is. If the OP is playing a Ranger 10 Drow noble, but the rest of the party is playing Class 13 Core Race, then balance would be more or less maintained.
As to the dragon question, I have never allowed a dragon mount ... I have had dragon agree to haul a character from point A to point B as a favor, but never as a permanent mount. Most intelligent beings would not willingly allow themselves to become beasts of burden, at least in my view. YMMV.
Read the dragon rider class. The class actually explains why the dragon is willing to go through with the deal.
it seems to me that allowing a drow noble in a game (where since he only had a chance to be a drow noble) not everyone has access to it, balance isnt being maintained.It depends on what the rest of the party is. If the OP is playing a Ranger 10 Drow noble, but the rest of the party is playing Class 13 Core Race, then balance would be more or less maintained.
As to the dragon question, I have never allowed a dragon mount ... I have had dragon agree to haul a character from point A to point B as a favor, but never as a permanent mount. Most intelligent beings would not willingly allow themselves to become beasts of burden, at least in my view. YMMV.
Well I think the point is they arent JUST a mount, but a friend, companion and ally. Riding the dragon is merely a matter of tactical advantage between a pair of fighters. Though the dragon rider class has a different flavor in which essentially the dragon allows himself to be magically bound to the rider in order to advance faster then would be possible via nature. The dragon advances effectively 2 age categories in the time it takes a hero to go from 1 to 16. In most campaigns that is a few years as opposed to the actual lifespan of the dragon which is normally what is required.
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See if he will allow the drake tamer from the Book of drakes by Open Design. It is an Alt summoner build that looks more balanced then the summoner much less the dragon Rider, At level 10 you would have a CR 6 drake. The same book also has the willful companion feat giving you a drake cohort of half your level.
And unlike some books this is aimed as much as the GM as the player and I found it very well done.
I did question that about Drakes. I was told No! for that ideal. So i went back too the drawing board.
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Read the dragon rider class. The class actually explains why the dragon is willing to go through with the deal.it seems to me that allowing a drow noble in a game (where since he only had a chance to be a drow noble) not everyone has access to it, balance isnt being maintained.It depends on what the rest of the party is. If the OP is playing a Ranger 10 Drow noble, but the rest of the party is playing Class 13 Core Race, then balance would be more or less maintained.
As to the dragon question, I have never allowed a dragon mount ... I have had dragon agree to haul a character from point A to point B as a favor, but never as a permanent mount. Most intelligent beings would not willingly allow themselves to become beasts of burden, at least in my view. YMMV.
The GM Explain there are no Third party rules plus the dragonryder was not a offical referance to the Paizo Pathfinder sourse.