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And by giggle, I mean really more of that evil GM chuckle that makes player go oh Shit!
So lets imagine an unarmed fighter who uses boar style. If he has boar style, body shield, impaling critical and improved impaling critical all sorts of fun can ensue. Boar style lets unarmed strikes do piercing damage. With impaling critical (that requires critical focus and weapon spec in your piercing weapon) you actually impale your victim on your weapon when you critical. In this case, your hand. Improved impaling critical, while unnecessary, does make it harder for your victim to escape. So, now that your hand is literally somewhere inside your opponent and you are doing damage every round until they manage to remove it, what should you do? grapple.
Once they are impaled and then grappled, you can use body shield to move them between you and one attack each round. If the provided cover forces a miss, your impaled victim takes the damage instead.
I call this my Sock Puppet combat style. Oh man, now I'm giggling again. Gotta go re-stat that arena barbarian from Kingmaker 5 to use this style.:)
my african luchadore just got cooler!
What about a half-orc Boar Shaman, with his boar companion taking a similar feat line? They could both be simultaneously impaling the enemy.
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How does Impaling Critical compare with Hamatula Strike from the Cheliax book (which sounds as if it does something similar, fluff-wise at least)?
theres another feat thats "new hamatula strike", it may be the boar style, i forget.
impailing crit just leaves your weapon in the opponent and they automatically take damage untill its pulled out.
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I think I saw that feat used in a movie once.
The classic 80's anime Fist of the Northstar had a similar scene. One guy was punching his finger into the helpless protagonist. Come to think of it, that movie is a great source of visual ideas for over the top unarmed combat for a PF game. You had exploding heads (Quivering palm?) iron bodies, vorpal fingers, and more.
As for the combo, with improved impaling critical, once you impale the guy he needs a grapple check against you to pull free. If he fails that first one and you grapple him, he gets on check a round, so he can either break the grapple or pull your hand out - not both.
And by giggle, I mean really more of that evil GM chuckle that makes player go oh S%*+!
So lets imagine an unarmed fighter who uses boar style. If he has boar style, body shield, impaling critical and improved impaling critical all sorts of fun can ensue. Boar style lets unarmed strikes do piercing damage. With impaling critical (that requires critical focus and weapon spec in your piercing weapon) you actually impale your victim on your weapon when you critical. In this case, your hand. Improved impaling critical, while unnecessary, does make it harder for your victim to escape. So, now that your hand is literally somewhere inside your opponent and you are doing damage every round until they manage to remove it, what should you do? grapple.
Once they are impaled and then grappled, you can use body shield to move them between you and one attack each round. If the provided cover forces a miss, your impaled victim takes the damage instead.
I call this my Sock Puppet combat style. Oh man, now I'm giggling again. Gotta go re-stat that arena barbarian from Kingmaker 5 to use this style.:)
There are a couple of problems around this concept. First, Boar style does not give you piercing. Boar Ferocity does, but not Boar Style. Snake Style does it in one feat as opposed to the 2 that you'd have to spend for boar style. So that is a waste, unless you like bleed damage.
The other problem is coming up with a way to get a better crit range than just 20. There's what... Improved Critical that you can get at BAB 8? Yeah, 19-20 threat range happens, just not enough. If there was a way to lower it, then I'd be all about this as I love your description of the sock puppet style.
And by giggle, I mean really more of that evil GM chuckle that makes player go oh S%*+!
So lets imagine an unarmed fighter who uses boar style. If he has boar style, body shield, impaling critical and improved impaling critical all sorts of fun can ensue. Boar style lets unarmed strikes do piercing damage. With impaling critical (that requires critical focus and weapon spec in your piercing weapon) you actually impale your victim on your weapon when you critical. In this case, your hand. Improved impaling critical, while unnecessary, does make it harder for your victim to escape. So, now that your hand is literally somewhere inside your opponent and you are doing damage every round until they manage to remove it, what should you do? grapple.
Once they are impaled and then grappled, you can use body shield to move them between you and one attack each round. If the provided cover forces a miss, your impaled victim takes the damage instead.
I call this my Sock Puppet combat style. Oh man, now I'm giggling again. Gotta go re-stat that arena barbarian from Kingmaker 5 to use this style.:)
There are a couple of problems around this concept. First, Boar style does not give you piercing. Boar Ferocity does, but not Boar Style. Snake Style does it in one feat as opposed to the 2 that you'd have to spend for boar style. So that is a waste, unless you like bleed damage.
The other problem is coming up with a way to get a better crit range than just 20. There's what... Improved Critical that you can get at BAB 8? Yeah, 19-20 threat range happens, just not enough. If there was a way to lower it, then I'd be all about this as I love your description of the sock puppet style.
Add class levels to a Cyclops and use its flash of insight ability to guarantee a "(super)natural" 20.
don't forget the catchphrase: "I'm gonna shove my fist so far up your ar** that water on my wrist will quench your thirs" (loosely taken from Major Pain)
don't forget the catchphrase: "I'm gonna shove my fist so far up your ar** that water on my wrist will quench your thirs" (loosely taken from Major Pain)
Interchangeable with: "Kali ma, Kali ma, Kali ma shuk ti de"
How does Impaling Critical compare with Hamatula Strike from the Cheliax book (which sounds as if it does something similar, fluff-wise at least)?
Let's do a quick comparison:
Impaling Critical: Happens on a crit. At the start of each turn, deal unarmed damage to him. Takes damage when pulling your hand out of his chest.
Hamatula Strike: Happens every hit. Make a grapple check at -4 to damage the enemy with your weapon.
Impaling Strike is the clear choice winner as far as damage goes. However, on every hit that's not a crit, you'll be stacking people on your arms like they were bracelets with Hamatula Strike.
Looks like it's best to get both and Improved Crit for that 19-20 range. Enjoy your man sized flesh bracelets.
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There are a couple of problems around this concept. First, Boar style does not give you piercing. Boar Ferocity does, but not Boar Style. Snake Style does it in one feat as opposed to the 2 that you'd have to spend for boar style. So that is a waste, unless you like bleed damage.
The other problem is coming up with a way to get a better crit range than just 20. There's what... Improved Critical that you can get at BAB 8? Yeah, 19-20 threat range happens, just not enough. If there was a way to lower it, then I'd be all about this as I love your description of the sock puppet style.
Hey nice catch on the boar style. I was misled by the table in the UC pdf which says boar style allows bludgeoning or piercing. Its actually slashing. So I guess you can officially switch Sock-Puppet (Meat-Puppet?) prerequisites to serpent style for the piercing damage.
As for the efficacy of this combo, I know it sucks. The chances of pulling this off in a fight are so close to nill that its barely worth considering as an option. But the humor factor is unmatched in PFRPG. Heck, the fact that it IS possible (if highly improbable) amusing me to no end. If you want this to actually be somewhat practical, use a cestus and get the keen enchantment on it. 17-20 crit range on a piercing weapon. You still need to be at least a 13th level fighter to get all of the feats, so its no easy task.