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I just received my copy of UC in the mail today, and began working on a plan to add the Dimensional series of feats to my Magus. My idea was to get to level 10 as a Magus (in order to get forth level spells) and then finish off with two levels of fighter using bonus feats to pick up Dimensional Assault and Dimensional Dervish as my level 12 capstone...
However, just as I was patting myself on the back for my ingenuity, I realized that none of the Dimensional feats are Combat feats. So I'm back to square one. I've racked my brain over it, and I'm pretty sure it's impossible for to get Dimensional Dervish by level 12 with a straight up Magus. The best I could come up with is some combination involving 7 levels of wizard.
So does anyone else have any ideas on how to make my spellstriking teleporting dream come to fruition?
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Then take the first feat of the chain at level 11. It allows you to use your remaining actions after a dim door; in conjunction with spell combat, your remaining action is a full attack: it's a bit weaker than dim dervish, but it does the trick.
Or play a summoner-synthesist instead of a magus; you access to dimdoor at level 7, and access to dim dervish at 11.
Thanks for the feedback. I hadn't really considered how spell combat by itself would let me do most of what I wanted. I guess that's what I get for staring at things for too long.
The synthesist idea also interests me. The only question I have is: does that fact that I'd be using dimension door as a spell-like ability keep me from being able to take the dimensional agility feat? My guess would be that it would work, since the requirement just says that you have to be able to cast Dimension Door, but I can see where some people might view that as a gray area.
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The summoner can take dimension door as a 3rd level spell (and probably should, it's a great spell).
As far as I've seen using a feat like this should work ok with a spell like ability that grants you dimension door also but I've heard conflicting replies about that. For example, I know the developers have said Augment Summoning works with SLAs but I think one of the developers later said Spell Focus does not work with SLAs...
My feeling is yes it should work with the SLA, but I'm not 100% certain on that.
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I just received my copy of UC in the mail today, and began working on a plan to add the Dimensional series of feats to my Magus. My idea was to get to level 10 as a Magus (in order to get forth level spells) and then finish off with two levels of fighter using bonus feats to pick up Dimensional Assault and Dimensional Dervish as my level 12 capstone...
However, just as I was patting myself on the back for my ingenuity, I realized that none of the Dimensional feats are Combat feats. So I'm back to square one.
Dimensional Dervish is another one of those pounce-like gimmicks -- if that's what you really wanted to do....
01 rogu1 TWF
02 rogu2 Quick Getaway
...spot unaware target; declare INIT.
...spend surprise round and possibly subsequent rounds sneaking adjacent to victim (or drink potion of Invisibility beforehand).
...full-attack flat-footed opponent with sneak-attack for 2x(1d4+1d6+?) = ~12hp, enough to drop any non-boss at Tier 1-2.
...(if unsuccessful in dropping opponent) Quick Getaway withdraw action.
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Pounce is overrated if a 1st-level character with the right skills or cheap equipment can approximate a reasonable facsimile.
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I just received my copy of UC in the mail today, and began working on a plan to add the Dimensional series of feats to my Magus. My idea was to get to level 10 as a Magus (in order to get forth level spells) and then finish off with two levels of fighter using bonus feats to pick up Dimensional Assault and Dimensional Dervish as my level 12 capstone...
However, just as I was patting myself on the back for my ingenuity, I realized that none of the Dimensional feats are Combat feats. So I'm back to square one.
Dimensional Dervish is another one of those pounce-like gimmicks -- if that's what you really wanted to do....
01 rogu1 TWF
02 rogu2 Quick Getaway...spot unaware target; declare INIT.
...spend surprise round and possibly subsequent rounds sneaking adjacent to victim (or drink potion of Invisibility beforehand).
...full-attack flat-footed opponent with sneak-attack for 2x(1d4+1d6+?) = ~12hp, enough to drop any non-boss at Tier 1-2.
...(if unsuccessful in dropping opponent) Quick Getaway withdraw action.
* * * *
Pounce is overrated if a 1st-level character with the right skills or cheap equipment can approximate a reasonable facsimile.
Ummm... your 'facsimile' requires expending potions ($$$) or multiple rounds (2+) PLUS successful stealth checks against opposed perception and it depends on lighting conditions (stealth modifiers) to replace an ability that can be done in a single round for free. Sorry, but that is not a reasonable facsimile.
Even pounce is not a true facsimile of the dimensional dervish ability. Its a teleport effect. That ignores intervening enemies, most battlefield distance, and terrain between you and the target. Can a rogue do that? Heck, can pounce? Dimensional dervish has a lot of upside, that's why its so difficult to fit in under 12th level.
Let's not forget that the next feat in the line uite litaerally allows you to flank with yourself.
On top of this you can basically pimp slap multiple targets at once with your full attack. You are quite literally nightcrawler in X-men 2 bamfing around the white house eliminating dozens of secret service agents.
your 'facsimile' requires expending potions ($$$)2nd-level potions of Invisibility are 300gp.
....so why's everybody waiting until 10th for their brand of Pounce?
Because you're spending 300gp at level 1 and we're doing it for free at level 10.
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Obviously you don't do it at the baby levels. But PFS is a cash-rich campaign; and everybody will be rolling in dough by 5th or 6th. For I-TWF rogues (in particular), an extra 300gp per mod is pocket-lint if it can secure a full-attack with 12d6 eligible sneak dice. He can basically just take one opponent right out before they even know a fight started.
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Obviously you don't do it at the baby levels. But PFS is a cash-rich campaign; and everybody will be rolling in dough by 5th or 6th. For I-TWF rogues (in particular), an extra 300gp per mod is pocket-lint if it can secure a full-attack with 12d6 eligible sneak dice. He can basically just take one opponent right out before they even know a fight started.
invisabilty only works for the first attack, every attack after that would be a regular attack, and the subject would nto be denied his dex bonus.
You need greater invisabilty todo what you want todo.
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Obviously you don't do it at the baby levels. But PFS is a cash-rich campaign; and everybody will be rolling in dough by 5th or 6th. For I-TWF rogues (in particular), an extra 300gp per mod is pocket-lint if it can secure a full-attack with 12d6 eligible sneak dice. He can basically just take one opponent right out before they even know a fight started.invisabilty only works for the first attack, every attack after that would be a regular attack, and the subject would nto be denied his dex bonus. You need greater invisabilty todo what you want todo.
Assuming his INIT roll is worse than a DEX-pimped rogue's, he's still flat-footed and therefore vulnerable to sneak-attack on the rest.