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Core book p5 says:
Add 1 1/2 str bonus when making an attack with 2 hands
Power attack says:
Add 1 1/2 power attack bonus when making an attack with a 2 hand weapon, or when using a one handed weapon with two hands.
Lance says:
May be weilded one handed while mounted.
So. If you charge with a lance (mounted of course) with a power attack, it looks like you add: Normal str bonus but power attack 1 1/2 bonus.
It also appears to imply that the power attack bonus would work in other situations such as "Omg, the monster just ate my left arm and I'm forced to swing back with my greataxe one handed.." (one would assume there'd reasonably be DM adjucated penalties to hit though..)
I realize DM say so is the final rule, but other than that, is that correct as written by the letter of the rules?
No matter what if you wield the weapon in 1 hand you add just Str and Just Power Attack. If you are wielding the weapon in two hands then its 1.5 Str and 1.5 Power Attack.
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No matter what if you wield the weapon in 1 hand you add just Str and Just Power Attack. If you are wielding the weapon in two hands then its 1.5 Str and 1.5 Power Attack.
Citation available? or voicing a "if I were the DM, this is what I'd say is the intent of the writers" opinion?
According to power attack, it says if you use a 2 handed weapon, not necessarily with 2 hands, you get 1 1/2. It doesn't necessarily sound even all that beardy.. larger weapons have more mass that even a non-1 1/2 str bonus can take advantage of.
It clearly does not say "get 1 1/2 bonus when you get 1 1/2 str bonus", which is why I'm skeptical about that being how it should be read.
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By RAW it appears you are correct. A two-handed weapon wielded in one hand would get 1.5* str to damage.
As a DM I'd argue that it no longer counts as a 2-handed weapon for you and you get normal damage increase (partly to prevent people from wielding a small character's 2-hander in one hand, like a Small Greatsword, to get the damage boost). However, this statement is my interpretation and not RAW.
I'm sure most people (myself included) ignore the actual wording of power attack and substitute with "make the multiplier match the str multplier".
RAW supports you Dessio, so your titan mauler still gets power and a half when one handing that greatsword
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I dont think there's any argument that an otherwise normal attack with a 2h weapon only using 1 hand gets the flat str bonus.. the str bonus rules say you have to be using 2 hands.
It's just the wording of power attack that I'm pointing out. It easily could have been their intent to just match bonus to str bonus.. and would have been a ton less awkward to just do so. :]
Anyway, I was concerned about whether using 1h str bonus with 2h weapon power attack bonus is technically legal (as I said I don't see any reason why not), and what sort of opinions about it seemed prevalant. thanks for the thoughts guys!
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I dont think there's any argument that an otherwise normal attack with a 2h weapon only using 1 hand gets the flat str bonus.. the str bonus rules say you have to be using 2 hands.
It's just the wording of power attack that I'm pointing out. It easily could have been their intent to just match bonus to str bonus.. and would have been a ton less awkward to just do so. :]
Anyway, I was concerned about whether using 1h str bonus with 2h weapon power attack bonus is technically legal (as I said I don't see any reason why not), and what sort of opinions about it seemed prevalant. thanks for the thoughts guys!
Technically legal, but won't necessarily fly at all tables.
Note that Paizo doesn't always word things in the simplest way possible. For example, they could have worded Vital Strike more along the lines of "You get a number and size of bonus damage dice equal to the damage of the weapon. For example, a Scimitar receives +1d6 bonus damage dice, while a greatsword receives +2d6 bonus damage dice." Since it's bonus dice they can ignore all that "doesn't double" crap that they had to toss onto the end of it (since, as a rule, bonus dice do not double, only bonus modifiers do).
May be weilded one handed while mounted.
So. If you charge with a lance (mounted of course) with a power attack, it looks like you add: Normal str bonus but power attack 1 1/2 bonus.
This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (–50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon
-It appears as though the general trend is that the weapon gets its power attack bonus based on how its being wielded, and they simply did not bring up the case of a two handed weapon being wielded in one hand because its normally impossible. You can finagle your way to the other interpretation, but I'm quite sure you're going against RAI there.