Sorcerer archetype questions

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Got a few questions to the two sorcerer archetypes crossblooded and wildblooded.

a) Can you mix them as you want, and for example be a crossblooded (vanilla) Infernal/Wildblooded Abyssal sorcerer?

b) Crazy combo I know: Abyssal/Celestial crossblooded... which DR does the summoned creatures have? (abyssal says DR/good, Celestial says DR/evil, and both says it doesn't stack with DR the creature already has)

[Blave]

Your sorc must have one hell of a pedigree...

Ahem, anyway:

a) Nothing in the rules against it. If some of your ancestors where Tieflings with different fiendish origins, I don't see anything wrong with that.

b) Nothing in he rules on that one. Personally, I'd just let you every time you summon something. It's not that much different from a neutral caster applying a celestial or infernal template on the fly every time he summons something. Depending on the sorcerers alignment and/or RP background, one might make this a once-in-a-lifetime decision (lika a netral cleric chooses positive or negative channeling).

[ProfPotts]

a) Generic archetype rules say that as long as they don't change the same class features you can take as many archetypes as you like, so you should be okay. (APG page 72 or UM page 14 for the rules on this)

b) Core rulebook page 562, '... If a creature has damage reduction from more than one source, the two forms of damage reduction do not stack. Instead, the creature gets the benefit of the best damage reduction in a given situation...'

[Mauril]

ProfPotts wrote:

a) Generic archetype rules say that as long as they don't change the same class features you can take as many archetypes as you like, so you should be okay. (APG page 72 or UM page 14 for the rules on this)

b) Core rulebook page 562, '... If a creature has damage reduction from more than one source, the two forms of damage reduction do not stack. Instead, the creature gets the benefit of the best damage reduction in a given situation...'

So (just to clarify) your summon essentially gets "DR 5/good and evil". Using just an evil weapon or just a good weapon still encounters DR 5. A weapon would have to count as both good and evil to by-pass the DR (or be subject to some sort of paladin smite or some such ability).

[Defraeter]

Mauril wrote:

So (just to clarify) your summon essentially gets "DR 5/good and evil". Using just an evil weapon or just a good weapon still encounters DR 5. A weapon would have to count as both good and evil to by-pass the DR (or be subject to some sort of paladin smite or some such ability).

No & yes.

Your summon will have advantage you mean but not as you explain.

As ProfPotts said it to you, you cannot stack two DR (nor combine them), but the summon will use the best DR it have between DR(1/2 sorceror level)/evil OR DR(1/2 sorceror level)/good OR its own DR.

So, for instance, if it is attacked by a weapon which count as good, it will use its DR(1/2 sorceror level)/evil (the best for this case), and if, in the same round, it is attacked by a weapon "evil", it will use DR/good.

As it is "difficult" (i.e impossible) to a weapon to be good and evil in the same time, your opponent will need a weapon with an enhancement bonus of +5 (created like that not increased by a spell) to overcomming the DR-alignement based -see p562- or a paladin's smite.

[Interzone]

You can have a weapon that is both good and evil, for example casting align weapon twice on the same weapon.

There is also nothing stopping you from for instance adding the Holy weapon enhancement to an Unholy weapon, although the wielder will end up with a negative level unless they are neutral.
But yeah, fully achievable, just basically never worth it unless you are constantly coming up against summoning-based abyssal/celestial crossblooded sorcerers..

And yes I know it doesn't make sense to have an Unholy Holy Longsword, for example, there is nothing precluding it in the rules, just like you can have a Flaming Frost Greatsword.

[Defraeter]

Interzone wrote:

You can have a weapon that is both good and evil, for example casting align weapon twice on the same weapon.

There is also nothing stopping you from for instance adding the Holy weapon enhancement to an Unholy weapon, although the wielder will end up with a negative level unless they are neutral.
But yeah, fully achievable, just basically never worth it unless you are constantly coming up against summoning-based abyssal/celestial crossblooded sorcerers..

And yes I know it doesn't make sense to have an Unholy Holy Longsword, for example, there is nothing precluding it in the rules, just like you can have a Flaming Frost Greatsword.

Oh yes!!! very good Interzone!

I forgot that!!!!