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I'm looking at writing a computer program for doing Harrow readings as well as playing some games based on the Harrow deck of cards.
As for art, I realize I have to create my own for the cards and any other information. I also have to include a copy of the OGL in it as well.
However, Harrow™ itself is a trademark of Paizo. In order to write this application and still reference the fact it was for Harrow, Harrowings, and Towers (the gambling game provided in the manual) would I need a PFRPG license or could I just use OGL? My understanding is that since Harrow itself is trademarked that I can't mention it due to the terms of the OGL, however I have seen Wayfinder (#5) use Harrow without referencing the trademark or copyright.
Also, would I have to write my own interpretations of what each of the cards meant (I'm probably going to do this anyway, because it feels wrong not to)?
I'm wanting to charge a small fee for this app, so I'm clearly not going to fall under the community use license.
Wayfinder has done it cause they are free and not for profit. Paizo has been very generous with fans doing free work. For any type of cost product then you have to abide by the community use license as far as names and what not.
To be clear: Wayfinder uses the Community Use Policy
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Wayfinder has done it cause they are free and not for profit. Paizo has been very generous with fans doing free work. For any type of cost product then you have to abide by the community use license as far as names and what not.To be clear: Wayfinder uses the Community Use Policy
Or the Pathfinder license. Not honestly sure which ones or which. Since I don't publish or make fan stuff. :) I just knew the gist is, free is ok to use stuff and pay stuff not ok to use stuff like that. :)
Or the Pathfinder license. Not honestly sure which ones or which. Since I don't publish or make fan stuff. :) I just knew the gist is, free is ok to use stuff and pay stuff not ok to use stuff like that. :)Wayfinder has done it cause they are free and not for profit. Paizo has been very generous with fans doing free work. For any type of cost product then you have to abide by the community use license as far as names and what not.To be clear: Wayfinder uses the Community Use Policy
Wayfinder uses the Community Use Policy, which gives fans the ability to play in the Golarion sandbox for non-commercial/non-profit purposes.
The Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License is for third-party publishers wishing to use the Pathfinder RPG ruleset, and excludes the use of intellectual property owned by Paizo.Gregg, since the Harrow deck is not something that's allowed under the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License, you are not going to be able to charge money for it. If you want to see about gaining permission from Paizo, I would suggest contacting Vic Wertz concerning a licensing agreement.
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Well, crap. I was hoping to use profits to get reimbursed for what I'd have to pay someone to do the card art (or to buy a couple nice dinners for a friend I can con into doing them).
Also, I'm not sure how a licensing deal would work out. OGL or PFRPG license are one thing, but I'm not licensing savvy enough to look at dealing with a custom licensing agreement. I have enough issue figuring out what I can and can't do with the OGL. I'm just a college student doing this as a personal project to learn phone app APIs a little better as well as what all I'd need to do to port applications between different devices (iPhone, Android, Windows Phone 7, etc).
My other idea was to do a Star Wars Sabacc card game, because Sabacc isn't a registered trademark as far as my research has turned up. So, I could mention Sabacc, but not Star Wars. It's just a slightly modified Tarot deck which means I don't need nearly as much unique art due to the lower number of major arcana type cards I'd have to deal with.
If you think that licensing isn't nearly as scary as I'm thinking it is, feel free to comment. I'll check back later.
[Edit: I'd much rather do the Harrow app. A) it's a smaller deck and B) I've got more card game ideas for it than a Sabacc deck... I actually submitted a Harrow version of Go Fish for Wayfinder #6 and mostly have a version of solitaire figured out I was going to submit for Wayfinder #7.]
It never hurts to ask! :D
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It never hurts to ask! :D
I'd have to second this as a software developer. If that is where your college studies are taking you, you will have to do business negotiations and licensing at some point. Also, wow Vic with this app and who knows...
A lot of successful businesses started with someone having a cajones to ask the right question of the right person at the right time.
Good luck.
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It never hurts to ask! :DI'd have to second this as a software developer. If that is where your college studies are taking you, you will have to do business negotiations and licensing at some point. Also, wow Vic with this app and who knows...
A lot of successful businesses started with someone having a cajones to ask the right question of the right person at the right time.
Good luck.
I'm also scared what said licensing would cost.
No guts, no glory. Email sent.
Hooray!
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Well, crap. I was hoping to use profits to get reimbursed for what I'd have to pay someone to do the card art (or to buy a couple nice dinners for a friend I can con into doing them).
If you're not looking to make a profit, just to recoup your losses, then just don't have losses! My suggestion would be to crowdsource the art. There are plenty of reasonably talented artists right here at the forums, and even a few really great artists. I'm sure with a few posts you could get all kinds of volunteers.
I wouldn't be surprised if you get some volunteers in this thread, in fact.
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Well, crap. I was hoping to use profits to get reimbursed for what I'd have to pay someone to do the card art (or to buy a couple nice dinners for a friend I can con into doing them).If you're not looking to make a profit, just to recoup your losses, then just don't have losses! My suggestion would be to crowdsource the art. There are plenty of reasonably talented artists right here at the forums, and even a few really great artists. I'm sure with a few posts you could get all kinds of volunteers.
I wouldn't be surprised if you get some volunteers in this thread, in fact.
Another alternative I've thought of is using various pieces of Renaissance art for the card graphics.
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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Beaten to the crowdsource Idea.
From a coding POV (keep in mind, my coding fu is 20+ years out of date) could you put the art in a seperate directory? So you have (say) a directory with graphics of each card, but the user could swipe out the images for ones of the same dimensions?
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Beaten to the crowdsource Idea.
From a coding POV (keep in mind, my coding fu is 20+ years out of date) could you put the art in a seperate directory? So you have (say) a directory with graphics of each card, but the user could swipe out the images for ones of the same dimensions?
For PC, most definitely. However, for things like phone apps, that option really isn't available to the user.
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For PC, most definitely. However, for things like phone apps, that option really isn't available to the user.Beaten to the crowdsource Idea.
From a coding POV (keep in mind, my coding fu is 20+ years out of date) could you put the art in a seperate directory? So you have (say) a directory with graphics of each card, but the user could swipe out the images for ones of the same dimensions?
Good point. I'm old. :P
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Good point. I'm old. :PFor PC, most definitely. However, for things like phone apps, that option really isn't available to the user.Beaten to the crowdsource Idea.
From a coding POV (keep in mind, my coding fu is 20+ years out of date) could you put the art in a seperate directory? So you have (say) a directory with graphics of each card, but the user could swipe out the images for ones of the same dimensions?
Not old, just not familiar with different application platforms.