Charging whose AC is dinged?


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

I am sure this very obvious, but I'm not sure.

If I am mounted & charging, who's AC takes the -2 penalty? The mount or rider? You are using the mount's speed, so shouldn't the mount take the penalty?


Yar.

Both the rider and the mount take the penalty, just as both the rider and the mount gain the bonus to attack.

~P

Grand Lodge

Indeed, BOTH are charging, not just one or the other.

Liberty's Edge

Ok, how about Cavalier's Charge. Does it go to both the mount & rider? Now neither have the penalty?


Yar.

THOMAS HAMLETT wrote:
Ok, how about Cavalier's Charge. Does it go to both the mount & rider? Now neither have the penalty?

Although I'm sure that people will feel one way or the other regarding this addition to the topic, the RAW is this:

Cavalier's Charge wrote:

At 3rd level, a cavalier learns to make more accurate charge attacks while mounted. The cavalier receives a +4 bonus on melee attack rolls on a charge while mounted (instead of the normal +2). In addition, the cavalier does not suffer any penalty to his AC after making a charge attack while mounted.

The RAW in thi instance only references the Cavalier himself, thus when a 3rd level cavalier and his mount charge, the mount gets a +2 to hit & -2 to AC, while the Cavalier get +4 to hit, and -0 to AC.

This is how I'm reading the RAW. They are still BOTH making the charge, but the Cavalier has superior training doing so.

~P

Sczarni

Must once again open the hallowed pages of the Halflings rule all and eternal sourcebook:

Halfling don't generally need to have a recorded Armor Class, they are nigh untouchable, in addition to being immortal and god-like...which is to say that gods are halfling-like.....sometimes I just have to sit back and take a minute, our overwhelming greatness takes a little while to process...there is ALOT there.

Liberty's Edge

Shtudd-Leee wrote:

Must once again open the hallowed pages of the Halflings rule all and eternal sourcebook:

Halfling don't generally need to have a recorded Armor Class, they are nigh untouchable, in addition to being immortal and god-like...which is to say that gods are halfling-like.....sometimes I just have to sit back and take a minute, our overwhelming greatness takes a little while to process...there is ALOT there.

Sorry, but that didn't help me........Playing Ebon the Destroyer tomorrow & need a decision...


Yar...

Shtudd-Leee wrote:

Must once again open the hallowed pages of the Halflings rule all and eternal sourcebook:

Halfling don't generally need to have a recorded Armor Class, they are nigh untouchable, in addition to being immortal and god-like...which is to say that gods are halfling-like.....sometimes I just have to sit back and take a minute, our overwhelming greatness takes a little while to process...there is ALOT there.

*grab and toss*

...right into an orc.

:p

~P


Yar.

THOMAS HAMLETT wrote:
Sorry, but that didn't help me........Playing Ebon the Destroyer tomorrow & need a decision...

I do hope that I have been helpful. By my reading of the rules, I feel pretty confident in my interpretation posted above (+4 hit, -0 AC is for the Cavalier only, mount still is at +2, -2).

~P

Liberty's Edge

Pirate wrote:

Yar.

THOMAS HAMLETT wrote:
Sorry, but that didn't help me........Playing Ebon the Destroyer tomorrow & need a decision...

I do hope that I have been helpful. By my reading of the rules, I feel pretty confident in my interpretation posted above (+4 hit, -0 AC is for the Cavalier only, mount still is at +2, -2).

~P

Thanks.........think you are right...

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