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Just found this on the BBC website:
TORCHWOOD MIRACLE DAY - THURSDAY, 14 JULY, 21:00 ON BBC ONE
Two weeks away! :)
In the US, it's on Starz starting July 8 at 10 PM Eastern and Pacific.
In Australia, it's on UKTV starting July 9 at 8.30 PM.In Canada, it starts on SPACE on July 9 at 9 PM ET.
I saw a commercial for that, featuring ol' Captain Jack Harkness. My question is, how will this version mesh with Dr. Who? Are the American networks going to change anything?
I haven't watched the Dr. since seasons 1 and 2 of the "next generation." Guess I better catch up.
I saw a commercial for that, featuring ol' Captain Jack Harkness. My question is, how will this version mesh with Dr. Who? Are the American networks going to change anything?
I haven't watched the Dr. since seasons 1 and 2 of the "next generation." Guess I better catch up.
It's still under the eye of RTD who has stated it's still part of the Whoniverse. In this month's Doctor Who Magazine he has stated that there will be mentions of:-
Ianto Jones
the TARDIS
The Doctor
A SJA monster features in a combat
Some item was salvaged from Cardiff
...I guess the change in production will keep the links between the shows slight....but who knows what may happen if Miracle Day is a success....
Cheers
Mark
It's also been revealed that there will be two different versions: an American and a British one (not sure which we'll get here in Canada, but probably the American one I'm guessing).
From the Doctor Who News Page:
Last week, Doctor Who Magazine editor Tom Spilsbury commented on Twitter that there would be slightly different versions of Miracle Day for the US and UK broadcast, adding yesterday that "they haven't started with one 'master version' and cut it for the UK. They've prepared two parallel edits for different markets." Russell T Davies had previously mentioned in his interview with Front Row that Jack is a 'childrens hero', and clarifies in the new Issue 436 of DWM that 'racier' scenes might be edited for a BBC audience.
Attendees at last week's BFI preview had reported that The New World seemed longer than the fifty minutes originally reported in the Cannes press release; this is also confirmed in DWM, with UK episodes expected to run for some 54 minutes whereas episodes on Starz would run for 50-51 minutes. Davies pointed out that this isn't a cut to the US version, but extra material added to the UK one!
Apparently those bits are even racier than they normally show on post-watershed BBC.
There are ten episodes total, and they're being shown once per week.
It's also been revealed that there will be two different versions: an American and a British one (not sure which we'll get here in Canada, but probably the American one I'm guessing).
From the Doctor Who News Page:
Last week, Doctor Who Magazine editor Tom Spilsbury commented on Twitter that there would be slightly different versions of Miracle Day for the US and UK broadcast, adding yesterday that "they haven't started with one 'master version' and cut it for the UK. They've prepared two parallel edits for different markets." Russell T Davies had previously mentioned in his interview with Front Row that Jack is a 'childrens hero', and clarifies in the new Issue 436 of DWM that 'racier' scenes might be edited for a BBC audience.
Attendees at last week's BFI preview had reported that The New World seemed longer than the fifty minutes originally reported in the Cannes press release; this is also confirmed in DWM, with UK episodes expected to run for some 54 minutes whereas episodes on Starz would run for 50-51 minutes. Davies pointed out that this isn't a cut to the US version, but extra material added to the UK one!
This makes me sad. Dr. Who and Torchwood are uniquely UK, why change 'em at all? That's what makes 'em so cool, IMO. I just don't understand this crap.
This makes me sad. Dr. Who and Torchwood are uniquely UK, why change 'em at all? That's what makes 'em so cool, IMO. I just don't understand this crap.
I agree. When I first read the news, my heart sank. I think it's really unnecessary.
There is the added question, too, of what will happen with the eventual DVD release. Since there's no master version that the two versions have been edited from, it suggests the possibility of two different DVD releases, one British and one North American (and who knows what they'll do for other regions of the world?). I would really prefer the DVD release to have one version that has everything from both the British and American versions.
I agree. When I first read the news, my heart sank. I think it's really unnecessary.
There is the added question, too, of what will happen with the eventual DVD release. Since there's no master version that the two versions have been edited from, it suggests the possibility of two different DVD releases, one British and one North American (and who knows what they'll do for other regions of the world?). I would really prefer the DVD release to have one version that has everything from both the British and American versions.
If I could I get it, I'd just buy the British version and skip the Starz pretender altogether.
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Just found this on the BBC website:
TORCHWOOD MIRACLE DAY - THURSDAY, 14 JULY, 21:00 ON BBC ONE
Two weeks away! :)
In the US, it's on Starz starting July 8 at 10 PM Eastern and Pacific.
In Australia, it's on UKTV starting July 9 at 8.30 PM.
In Canada, it starts on SPACE on July 9 at 9 PM ET.
Wow, really? I knew that the USA was getting it before us in the UK, but Australia and Canada as well?
I'm willing to give the American version a go. I'm sure I can always find a DVD of the UK version later.
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I thought John Barrowman's character did something 'ends justifies the means' evil in the last episode of the Children of Earth, went insane (had trouble living with it, but couldn't exactly kill himself), and ran away?
Oh well, maybe it's going to be a twin turning up from a parallel universe (or an earlier out-of-sequence time-travelled version, who has no idea of the badness he's going to get up to - hah! that would be fun)...
1. He didn't really go insane, he just was wracked with guilt and went away for a while. Now, it would seem, he's back. (Unfortunately, I'd actually prefer Torchwood sans Jack, myself.)
2. I dunno if I'd really say what he did was evil. It was tragic but necessary. His only other alternatives were either monstrously evil, or impotently ineffectual. The action he took may have ended one life, but it also saved MILLIONS.
If I could I get it, I'd just buy the British version and skip the Starz pretender altogether.
Except that it's not a "pretender." Starz invested heavily in Miracle Day - it's just as much their production as it is the Beeb's.
That being said, I don't understand the reason for two versions, either. People watch Torchwood for Torchwood, not for "American Torchwood" or "British Torchwood."
If I could I get it, I'd just buy the British version and skip the Starz pretender altogether.Except that it's not a "pretender." Starz invested heavily in Miracle Day - it's just as much their production as it is the Beeb's.
That being said, I don't understand the reason for two versions, either. People watch Torchwood for Torchwood, not for "American Torchwood" or "British Torchwood."
There were actually differences in the aired version of the original Torchwoods, when it was aired on BBCAmerica as opposed to the BBC. Granted, the changes were small, but definitely noticeable. Still, they don't change the story. I just like to see what it is that I'm not supposed to see and hear because I'm American. It's usually more sexually suggestive, with a few more curse words thrown in. Apparently, I'm supposed to be more sensitive to those sorts of things.
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There were actually differences in the aired version of the original Torchwoods, when it was aired on BBCAmerica as opposed to the BBC. Granted, the changes were small, but definitely noticeable. Still, they don't change the story. I just like to see what it is that I'm not supposed to see and hear because I'm American. It's usually more sexually suggestive, with a few more curse words thrown in. Apparently, I'm supposed to be more sensitive to those sorts of things.
Torchwood (and most episodes of Doctor Who) have usually been edited when shown on BBC America (or Sci Fi before that); that's due not to content issues but to time constraints, as they need to fit in commercials as well. (That's not a problem for Starz.)
The second series of Torchwood did have edits made solely for content reasons *within the UK*, when it was shown pre-watershed.
On the topic of Miracle Day, note that they're saying that the *US* version will have more adult content, but the *UK* version will be longer.
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Yeah. Previous series have had the UK version as the "master version", and then the US version was a trimmed down version of that. But it's not even the same thing in reverse here...there won't be a "master version". The UK version will have some stuff that's not in the US version, and the US version will have some stuff that's not in the UK version...there won't be a complete "master version".
Stupid TV executives.
Yeah. Previous series have had the UK version as the "master version", and then the US version was a trimmed down version of that. But it's not even the same thing in reverse here...there won't be a "master version". The UK version will have some stuff that's not in the US version, and the US version will have some stuff that's not in the UK version...there won't be a complete "master version".
Stupid TV executives.
Forcing die-hard fanboys to buy both DVDs in order to have a complete set.
Smart TV executives.
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Yeah. Previous series have had the UK version as the "master version", and then the US version was a trimmed down version of that. But it's not even the same thing in reverse here...there won't be a "master version". The UK version will have some stuff that's not in the US version, and the US version will have some stuff that's not in the UK version...there won't be a complete "master version".
Stupid TV executives.
Forcing die-hard fanboys to buy both DVDs in order to have a complete set.
Smart TV executives.
And then, maybe a year later, release a version that has cobbled together ALL the scenes, selling a third version to the die-hard fanboys.
If Cap'n Jack doesn't swing both ways, we'll know the (American) reason why.
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Well, I enjoyed the first episode.So did I. You didn't need Children of Earth to follow the plot, but it was nice.
Strangely, my favourite part was Gwen putting the earmuffs on the baby.
Indeed, mine too.
I liked Jack's alias when he was masquerading as an FBI agent. Nice touch there.
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I liked Jack's alias when he was masquerading as an FBI agent. Nice touch there.
I found it darkly full circle.
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Hmm, and the first episode has belatedly aired over here in the UK. Captain Jack is acting as if he's completely forgotten that he had a meltdown and ran off at the end of Children of Earth.
Oh well, maybe someone retconned him...
Strange
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They could have arranged everything and had all their bases covered for Gwen and Rhys to disappear, hence Jack felt that it was "safe" to leave.
Well, on the whole I liked it and looking forward to the next one.
Likes:
456 continuity
Gwen being bas-ass with a gun.
Rex's and Esther's continuous phone call as he struggles to get to the UK (Wales isn't part of England?!).
Helicoptor chase scene was pretty cool.
Dislikes:
Is Cardiff Hospital really so grotty...even on the NHS?
Re-using Gwen's intro to Torchwood (find out about it, meet Jack, get retconned, friend belatedly gives clue about Torchwood, find out about it again).
Cheers
Mark
Okay...
I love how they're being so expansive on the myriad problems the world would face with an undying humanity. I wonder how long they sat around brainstorming all the possible complications?
I'm going to be rather disappointed if this situation is the result of some evilbad pharmaceutical megacorp scheming to sell massive amounts of painkillers.
Given Captain Jack has a problem recovering it suggests the message was a deliberate attempt to force him to return so whoever is behind this debacle can steal his "immortality".
That would make it far easier to resolve once they find out who was behind this since it clearly hasn't gone the way they wanted since they would hardly want everyone being unable to die rather than whoever was the intended recipient of this special ability.
So therefore we might see the real reason for moving Torchwood is actually to secure Jack and correct the original mistake with the target in their possession rather than trick him to travel back to Earth.
Oh well...
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I as well.
Other theory.
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More likes.
Gwen b@$@!ing about the mini Cooper.
Looks like Rhys won't be forgotten (I like Kai Owen).
Shout out to Israeli medical.
Eve Myles' freckles (never watched Torchwood in HD)
The kind of dark irony that it looks like 'fixing' miracle day will kill Rex and Gwen's dad.
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Pharma lobbyist giving her card to the doc lady and telling her exactly how to get her Senator to give carte blanche to big pharma for the mass production of painkillers.... an opportunistic reaction to the situation at hand or too much a coincidence? (both are possible... but the all red outfit is creeping me out and shouts "alien human hybrid" to me... :) that, or Satan in disguise... instead of alien in nature, the threat could be supernatural in nature... what if Satan has broken free and *did* enact one big "Miracle" day? the alien explanation seems a red herring to me, since the autopsy doctor just blatantly blurted that out on the first episode... that whole show has some Tele Evangelist undertones to me, and I think Oswald is going to become some kind of gigantic Jimmy Swaggart figure, exponent ten... I have a feeling he could also become the "good guy" of the story, with powers to fix the situation, since his initial criminal/disgusting persona could be yet another red herring... etc. etc. )
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my theory that she may have something to do with the big S - confirmed or just yet another red herring? :P
*sigh*
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The idea of affecting the whole human race in one go is similar to the healing device from The End of Time. It would probably require some alien tech to do that....
Cheers
Mark
I wonder back from when the Master jury-rigged that device to turn every human into a clone of him, perhaps someone used Captain Jack to allow his immortality talent to be spread through everyone on the planet except of course Jack since there must be a limit to that immortality stuff, right?
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I wonder back from when the Master jury-rigged that device to turn every human into a clone of him, perhaps someone used Captain Jack to allow his immortality talent to be spread through everyone on the planet except of course Jack since there must be a limit to that immortality stuff, right?
Technically Jack isn't immortal, he just can't be killed. Well, and ages almost infinitely slowly.
I wonder back from when the Master jury-rigged that device to turn every human into a clone of him, perhaps someone used Captain Jack to allow his immortality talent to be spread through everyone on the planet except of course Jack since there must be a limit to that immortality stuff, right?Technically Jack isn't immortal, he just can't be killed. Well, and ages almost infinitely slowly.
Technically, he can be killed. It just doesn't stick. The one season finale where he overloaded the big bad with life juice, he was dead for at least a few days.
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It's not really a leap to read exactly what's being printed.
Maybe there's a bigger plot than just the evil pharmaceutical company. I surely hope so, because so far, I'm underwhelmed.