| Sizik |
All this time, I thought oracles used metamagic feats the same way sorcerers and bards do, applying the feat the moment they cast the spell. But it turns out they have to prepare their metamagic spells in advance, not spontaneously when they're cast.
An oracle casts divine spells . . .
Wizards and Divine Spellcasters: Wizards and divine spellcasters must prepare their spells in advance. During preparation, the character chooses which spells to prepare with metamagic feats (and thus which ones take up higher-level spell slots than normal).
| Hyperion-Sanctum |
All this time, I thought oracles used metamagic feats the same way sorcerers and bards do, applying the feat the moment they cast the spell. But it turns out they have to prepare their metamagic spells in advance, not spontaneously when they're cast.
Oracle wrote:An oracle casts divine spells . . .Metamagic Feats wrote:Wizards and Divine Spellcasters: Wizards and divine spellcasters must prepare their spells in advance. During preparation, the character chooses which spells to prepare with metamagic feats (and thus which ones take up higher-level spell slots than normal).
Oracle's don't have the ability to prepare spells.
Specific overrules generality
Diego Rossi
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I will say you can extend this rule to cover the oracle casting style.
Spontaneous Casting and Metamagic Feats: A cleric spontaneously casting a cure or inflict spell, or a druid spontaneously casting a summon nature's ally spell, can cast a metamagic version of it instead. Extra time is also required in this case. Casting a standard action metamagic spell spontaneously is a full-round action, and a spell with a longer casting time takes an extra full-round action to cast. The only exception is for spells modified by the Quicken Spell feat, which can be cast as a swift action.
| Maggiethecat |
On a related note, how does an oracle prepare daily spells? Like a sorcerer or like a cleric?
Like a Sorcerer, although they don't "prepare" spells. They have a very limited spell list, but can cast any spell on their spell list anytime they want, provided they have a spell slot of the appropriate level still available.
Nope, it says only "Sorcerers and Bards".
Yeah, because Oracles didn't exist when the Metamagic feats were written in the core rulebook. Oracles are clearly a spontaneous caster like Sorcerers and should treat Metamagic feats like a Sorcerer would.
| Sizik |
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That's just a holdover from the basic assumptions made in the core rules. Core, there are no spontaneous divine casters. The druid, paladin, and cleric all prepare spells, so when that text was written regarding metamagic, the assumption followed that. The oracle should cast like a sorcerer.
This is pretty much my point in making this thread. The metamagic section should be errata'd to refer to "prepared casters" and "spontaneous casters", not "wizards and divine casters" and "sorcerers and bards" (same with the Magic chapter).
| stringburka |
Or, we can just accept that this is such an obvious case that no errata's needed. Come on, there's better things for them to do than this. There's much worse rules issues than the core book not including rules for a splatbook that's got the specific rules in them. IIRC, the core rulebook also says there's 11 character classes. Does that need official errata too?
| Slaunyeh |
Like a Sorcerer, although they don't "prepare" spells. They have a very limited spell list, but can cast any spell on their spell list anytime they want, provided they have a spell slot of the appropriate level still available.
So an oracle requires 8 hours of sleep to get their spell slots back?
Since the spellcasting chapter in the Core book was obviously written without spontaneous divine casters in mind, I wish the Oracle writeup would have taken a moment to address it.